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"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
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Originally posted by: motti_soL
no free will? fine, this conversation is over.

im sorry SES, it was fun, but i cant talk to someone who thinks his life isnt governed by himself.


You dont have to get pissed off.

Look at it this way. Human beings are like sponges collecting dirt, or a computer injected with information. Every opinion that you have, every decision that you make, is based on learned experience from your life-time. Its impossible for you to make a free will decision without it being motivated by earlier learned experience.

If you do something, or make a decision, how do you know that it wasn't already pre-programmed in the universe?


I just had another thought earlier today. I was thinking about Isaac Newton's prism experiment. When Newton let a ray of light shine through a clear prism, it reflected out the other side as a multi-colored rainbow. When Newton put another prism in the path of the rainbow, the rainbow reflected through the other side as a normal white light again. Prism

Remember when I was talking about doppelgangers and how they create alternate universes to keep the living host's consciousness alive? Well, what if each living thing had its own universe that revolved solely around it. For example: if my consciousness is kept alive through an endless amount of alternate universes it would appear to me that I was immortal, but everything else around me would die. If this kept going on endlessly then eventually the host would be the only living thing in his known universe. That means that it could be quite possible for the host to be floating around in space while everything else (planets, stars, humans, etc..) are dead. What would happen then? Perhaps the last living creature in the universe will evolve into a star, expand, explode, and create a brand new universe like our previous star did.

Consider that the ray of light in the prism experiment represents life, and the first prism represents our previous universe. When the ray of light intersects with the first prism it creates a rainbow, which could represent our known universe. The rainbow could also represent infinite consciousness for individual people in their own alternate universes. The second prism in the experiment represents the end of the known universe for the being. When the being becomes the last being in the universe they might implode into nothingness, but emerge on the other side of the second prism (a second universe) as another ray of light. The ray of light intersects with yet another black universe and creates another planetary universe just like before. This could suggest that life is not only infinite, but it also comes from the same source and it repeats itself endlessly.
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im not pissed, i just not a drone... as some other apparently.
"The ability to speak does not make you intelligent."
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I'm still trying to figure out what the hell is going on in this thread. Weird.
"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'."
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A little bit of "pub philosofy", you know, crazy theories about life, death, time, light, love, quantum physics...
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
what happed while i was gone

Don't ask. I'm lost as well. Let's just be blissful in our ignorance, eh?
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nothing happened...
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I think we're just trying to figure out all the stuff being spouted off in here. I've effectively given up.
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might as well... there is little sense. IMHO.
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maybe...
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My theory of Universivity:

1st draft.

1. Our previous universe--our previous universe consisted of nothing but black, empty space, the same space that we see now surrounding our soloar system. This empty space is like a blank piece of paper waiting to be filled up with more life. Our previous universe is symbolic of death because it is litterally nothing! Our previous universe is also symbolic with the #1 because one is a whole, and our previous universe was a whole. 1 is an odd number and is the first number of the numerical alphabet, therefore it leads the rest of the numbers just like our previous universe led us into existence.

2. Love--In my theory not to be confused with the actual feeling of love. Love in my theory simply means "living energy". What is the opposite of death? Life! What is the opposite of emptyness? Full! Life is full, death is empty. Love is full, and our previous universe was empty. Love is the opposite of our previous universe. Somehow our previous universe was split into two or intersected with the opposite of what it was. Where did this other thing come from? Not sure, but it could have came from an alternate universe, which I will explain later in this post.

3. The Duoverse--Either our previous universe split into half and created living love in the form of a speck of light, or it was intersected with love from a different realm. Both of these combined is symbolic of the number 2, because 2 represents two equal halves of a whole. Other ways the #2 is symbolic is through the representation of male and female, 2 hemispheres on a planet, the yinyang, etc...

If this duoverse had a penciled form it would look like this:


One of the crossed lines can be viewed as representing our previous universe, the other line that intersects it represents love. What's different about this cross-intersection? The center. Why? Because the center is where both of the worlds are combined as one, and is the only thing on the graph that looks different. Ignore the arrowed-line and the other things on the above picture. When these two things combined it created our known universe. The intersection from above is symbolic of the "X" or Christian cross, and also the ancient Egyptian Ankh, which I will discuss later.

4. Big Bang--I believe that when our Previous Universe connected with love it created a simple speck of light in outer space. The speck of light evolved into a star, exploded, and created our known universe. I believe this will happen again in our universe. I'll explain that later.

5. Our Known Universe--Our Known Universe is not to be confused with our Previous Universe when regarding my theory. In my theory, the Known Universe represents our galaxy, solar system, the planets, comets, stars, and every other thing floating aroud in outer space. When our Previous Universe connected with love it created our Known Universe. Our Known Universe is symbolic of the #3 because it is the third thing in our world. The first thing is our Previous Universe (outer space) which surrounds everything else. The 2nd thing was love that which created our Known Universe. And the 3rd thing is our Known Universe which was created by love. Our Known Universe can be split up into more universes through the process of Alternate Universes; I'll explain that later.

Take this picture as a representation of our Known Universe, and everything else:


If the white ray of light represents love, and the clear prism represents our Previous Universe, and they intersect, then the rainbow coming out the other side represents our Known Universe, because when love connected with our Previous Universe it created something completely different and new. right?

6. Alternate Universes--In my opinion an Alternate Universe is created when the Known Universe, or the life of any living thing ceases to survive. Survival is the first instinct learned in living things. For example: when a baby is born it struggles to survive by searching for its mother's nipple to feed itself. Same thing happens in death. The living body of a person may die, but the consciousness of the person will continue to live in an unlimited amount of alternate universes. When it looks like they're going to die, they automatically enter into a new alternate universe. When they are about to die in the new universe then they will move on to another universe and so on...

7. Psychronicity--Psychronicity is the term I use to describe the process of Alternate Universe creation. In Psychronicity, Psychrons (I changed the name from 'doppelganger") act like invisible messengers for the psyche of the living organism. They are a lot like the neurons in the brain because they recieve and send information back to the brain that keeps the body alive and conscious. Psychrons are like an invisible set of sensory motors. They are constantly guarding the past and searching the future. They are like clones of the living creature. They search the future and look for ways to safe-guard the consciousness of the organism. I believe this process of Alternate Universe creation will go on forever until the person actually becomes the last living thing in outer space. Then I think the person will evolve into a star, explode, and re-created the Known Universe all over again just as before. When newton put another clear prism in front of his rainbow, another white ray of light came out of the other side. I think all of this proves that nothing is independent, and everything repeats itself. I believe that when we experience deja vu we are actually re-experiencing a minor point in our lives, because our psychrons have gone back in time to change things to avoid future catastrophe.

If this process of Psychronicity had a visual image it would look like this:


An ancient Egyptian Ankh. Notice how the Ankh in the picture looks similar to the intersection picture from above. Imagine that the center of the ankh, where the two lines connect, represents the central consciousness of the human being. The bottom line of the ankh represents the time that has already passed. The oval on top of the ankh represents the time that has yet to happen. When the psychrons start out they are like a straight line. When they detect fatality of the human being in the near future then they will go back to the central consciousness the change some events to change the future of the human. The oval on the Ankh is similar to the way this would look.
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That's your theory, SpecialEditionSaboteur? Is it based on experiments, observations and scientific notations?
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flipping heck!!!!

what the fudge is going on here?????

Im trying to read through all these posts & have given up!! It's makin me noggin hurt!

All i can say is...

Whoever's responsible for passing round the spliff & spiking everyones drinks with LSD......why did you leave me out??
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
That's your theory, SpecialEditionSaboteur? Is it based on experiments, observations and scientific notations?


My theory is only in its first stages and is based on abstract thinking and observations. I dont think you can prove how the universe was created through science, at least not right now. Its a give and take situation. You have to think about it and theorize what happened and either prove it or make it sound reasonable.
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you dont need science to prove everything.
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I know, I know, but I was a little bit curious about how this theory would be avaliated later.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Ever seen Jet Li's "The One"? That movie is a good way of imagining my theory of psychronicity.

Imagine if each one of your psychrons was like an individual clone of the host, and each time the human entered an alternate universe then they would leave something behind like a finger print. They leave a psychron behind. But what if you were able to go back through time and kill all of your psychrons? What if you had no more psychrons left? I think that if this happened then the human would become both dead and super-human.

In Jet Li's "The One", as each Jet Li is killed their power is divided up between the rest of the Jet Li's equally. Well, its possible that this could really happen in my theory. So, now I go back to my question: What would happen if you had no more psychrons left? The answer: You would become so powerful, and so fast that you would cease to exist. Therefore you would be both dead and super-natural at the same time.

If a person loses all of their sensory motors in their brain in an accident, what happens to them? They become vegetables, they virtually cease to exist. Same thing that happened above.
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im sorry SES, but youre losing me... its getting to be a bit too non-understandable.
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should be said that i was drunk when i read that... soooo...
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If you haven't already noticed, motti tends to haunt these boards while drunk quite often.
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motti just tends to be drunk quite often.
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And refer to himself in the third person often as well.
"You fell victim to one of the classic blunders, the most famous of which is 'Never get involved in a land war in Asia'."
--Vizzini (Wallace Shawn), The Princess Bride
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