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Post #1368001

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StarkillerAG
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Date created
9-Aug-2020, 11:37 PM

Hal 9000 said:

We’ve certainly augmented a few things in light of TLJ, but I do not share the appraisal of TROS ignoring TLJ. It clearly wanted to retcon some stuff, though.

Yeah, that’s what I’ve been saying. TROS didn’t just “ignore” TLJ like so many people are saying, there were several references to the events throughout the movie:

  • The plot as a whole is only facilitated by Snoke and Luke being dead.
  • The Skywalker saber has clearly been taped together after it was broken in TLJ.
  • When Kylo has his vision, it plays some audio of Luke saying “Ben, no!” from TLJ.
  • Kylo can’t rebuild his helmet if it was never broken in the first place.
  • When Kylo talks to Rey on Passana, he says, “I offered you my hand once.”
  • When Kylo reveals the truth about Rey, he explicitly compares it to his earlier revelation about Rey’s junk trader parents.
  • Hux being the spy makes no sense without Kylo treating him like trash in TLJ.
  • When Rey heals Kylo, she responds to Kylo’s earlier statement, saying “I did want to take your hand.”
  • When Luke talks to Rey, he mentions the lesson he learned in TLJ, that it’s wrong to run away from your troubles.
  • When the Resistance is planning their attack, one of them mentions “Holdo manuevers”.

And that’s just the stuff I remember off the top of my head. Point is, someone who skipped TLJ and went straight from TFA to TROS would be hopelessly confused.
I agree that there should have been more thematic continuity with TLJ, though. Hal’s edit has been doing a wonderful job of that so far.