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Laserman
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.: The X0 Project Discussion Thread :. (* unfinished project *)
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6-Sep-2005, 1:20 AM
Well, we aren't suffering from Jaggies anywhere near as much as the other transfers we have viewed, or even as much as the standard laserdisc players do.

The NTSC and PAL versions are different beasts, while the PAL version has the edge in resolution, detail is lost because of the lack of a low noise design PAL laserdisc player being available.
Also, the PAL versions are framed differently, with the PAL version cropped, so missing some picture. That means what is on screen may look better as you have extra resolution and a tighter frame, but it also means you are missing some of the picture completely , which isn't a good thing. If you have a TV with a lot of overscan, then you are really missing out bigtime.

A lot of the problems of watching the NTSC version on Laserdisc, or the current bootlegs, such as missing starfields, awful jaggies, off colours etc. aren't a problem with our transfer so far.

Resolution is a big part of the story, but if some of the detail is lost to noise, then the resolution advantage drops off. If you can process the NTSC version to bring out some of the detail, and you aren't losing detail to noise then you start to get pretty close as far as actual 'usable' resolution goes. Also, we are cleaning up every single frame, so a lot of detail that is lot to dirt and crap is restored also.

If there was an X0 equivalent that could play PAL discs, then I would say the PAL transfer would outshine the NTSC transfer, but with the current PAL players available I'm expecting the result to be different. I've looked at the 925 and 2950 PAL players (both highly regarded) and in nearly every scene for ANH I prefer the X0 output once it has been processed. I haven't looked at Jedi or ESB on PAL yet to compare. There are a couple of scenes that at the moment I prefer on the PAL transfer, but we're just taking that as a challenge to improve those scenes

I wish there was a PAL X0 as it is a hell of a lot less work though when you don't have to worry about IVTC and so on.

So , to answer the question, will the X0 version will outshine the current PAL versions because of the above factors?
We are making sure that we are getting every last drop out of each scene, and it will definately far outshine the current NTSC versions, and at this stage I'm preferring it to the PAL transfers I've scene - especially on colour, framing, look, and in most scenes (surprisingly) on detail.