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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
The only reason this debate even exists is because George went overboard with the whole Superjedi premise in the prequels, giving them crazy badass skills far, far, FAR beyond regular people. Obviously Jedi are supposed to be able to perform feats that are beyond regular people. That's a no-brainer. They have a great degree of athleticism, and they can do things through the force. The prequels, however, allow them to do every kind of aerial acrobatics short of actually flying. So the fact that Mace Windu dies by falling out of a high window was poorly done and left more ambiguous than it should have been, based on abilities of the Jedi as demonstrated throughout the previous two movies. That's George's own fault in his writing.
I would have to disagree with that. Of course they'll have skills beyond regular people, that's what makes them Jedi. But if you take Windu, who has his arm cut off and thrown out of window (after being hit by force lightning) its very unlikely he would survive. They aren't invincible.
In any case, the whole point to the "balance of the force" prophecy is that in the end, the force is balanced. Two dark jedi (Vader and Palpatine) and two light Jedi (Obi-Wan and Yoda). So it's doubtful Mace was meant to survive.
I'm not saying I think he survived. I think he's dead as a doornail. I was just saying that the reason people debate whether or not he's alive is because it has been shown before that Jedi can survive falling from great heights and being struck by Palpatine force lightning. So I say it's poor writing on George's part because he either should have toned back the Jedi powers or written Mace's death in a way that didn't have a possibility of contradicting said powers.
And Adam, I'm sorry if I didn't make myself clear on what I said before. Yes, I know that the EU books are sanctioned by LFL. My comparison to fanfiction simply meant that both the EU and fanfiction are written by fans of the series who continue it how they want to. It's not like the movie adaptations where authors are given the story to convert into book. They have pretty much free reign to write what they want, provided that they don't disrupt the continuity of the other EU books. See what I'm saying? I know it's really all up to opinion how much the EU can be considered canon. I'm still slightly torn myself. It depends on the situation. But in the case of Boba Fett, you really do have a choice. I don't have to say that he's definitely alive because the EU said so. I can believe what I want to because the EU is really kind of semi-canon. What I disagree with is that, in order for someone to die, it has to specifically stated that he died. As in, Boba falls into the sarlaac pit, and suddenly Jabba yells, "Boba Fett is dead!" The sarlaac pit is described as, "a new definition of pain and suffering as you are slowly digested over a thousand years." That pretty much implies that one who falls into the sarlaac pit is going to die. Obviously, the fact that it's not an instant death provides it with the loophole that the EU writer used to get him out. But it never says how long it takes for him to die. Obviously, Fett's not going to be lying in there alive for a thousand years. That's simply how long it takes for his body to be digested. He could die after a few days or maybe a month... maybe several painful hours. But I think the movie implies well enough that Fett is dead. You don't necessarily have to have someone say that he's dead for him to be dead. No one ever says that Vader is dead, or that Jabba is dead, but no one really argues that point.
And current versions of the episodes being #1 canon. Well, in a sense I suppose you're right about that. I simply refuse to accept Special Edition changes as being canon, but that's just me being a stubborn old crummudgeon. ^_^