The "Vader Edition" Star Wars Saga - Episodes 1-6 Edits (1/6 available) (WIP) (Revival) — Page 2

My AOTC edit is now exported and available.

Here are some videos.

Compilation of all of my new crawls for all 6 movies: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhAaPtENXTw
New Padme apartment scene: https://youtu.be/hQw_Pzm6p7U
Trimmed Packing scene: https://youtu.be/a86_BStLJkw
Mace & Obi-Wan scene (readded deleted scene, now with a new line, see if you can spot it): https://youtu.be/lGA9593v-wE
Padme’s Bedroom scene (readded deleted scene): https://youtu.be/9Iz7v6sp1CQ
New Dinner/First Kiss scene (first kiss scene regrade by Hal9000): https://youtu.be/Ma15X-fzggY

I will also post clips of my TPM edit tomorrow.

I’ve made some tweaks to my AOTC edit to fix up some of the transitions and some additional minor changes. In case this wasn’t picked up on before, it’s now available.

I’ve been working on my ROTS edit. I’ve been considering some other minor dialogue trims, added another deleted scene and of course Padme’s new death is still in the works. I’ve been considering adding the deleted scene in which Obi-Wan, Mace and Yoda talk about their suspicions about Palpatine for the same reason others do, to show that the Jedi are onto Palpatine from the beginning, but I haven’t completely decided yet. I’d be interested in hearing input from others.

I happened to stumble upon this video and I’m considering editing this idea into my TPM edit. I like it as it makes the music more unique when it’s reprised in ROTS, and I think it’s very fitting for the scene. What do you guys think?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR8IRRm0qAA

Knight of Kalee said:

A couple months ago I was inspired by the “New canon cut” and gave a try to reinserting the council deleted scene, but I cut Yoda’s last line so he can say it later during hologram briefing scene later in the film. Here, he just (reluctantly) nods.
https://youtu.be/9Qrghd3sK7U

Nice! I’ve been inspired a little bit by NFBisms’ new canon cut too, though of course I’m not including all of his changes.

The thing is though, I’m trying to figure out where I’d put this scene, because unlike many of the edits that use it, I’m keeping the original placement of Anakin’s dream and his scene with Padme and then Yoda when he talks about it with them. I not only love both scenes and think they are well-written, but I also think the latter one is especially important as it shows that Anakin does initially go to the Jedi for help, but Yoda doesn’t give him a solution other then “Let Padme die”, which isn’t what Anakin wants. I feel like this is an important step in Anakin’s turn to the Sith, the Jedi refusing him but the Sith offering him a way. I’m also keeping the first dream in it’s original place as it’s important that Anakin receives these dreams over and over, as it increases his stress about it and makes him more and more determined to prevent it from happening. Any suggestions as to where I could place this deleted scene?

Knight of Kalee said:

In your version, the deleted scene should ideally be placed somewhere before Anakin’s first nightmare. The political stance of the Jedi regarding Palpatine needs to be established early in the film.

When Anakin and Obi-Wan land at Coruscant after the battle, Obi-Wan mentions he’s going to meet with the Council. Maybe the Yoda/Windu/Obi-Wan talk could be inserted there, before or after Grievous arrives on Utapau. You may need a new Jedi Temple establishing shot to add immediately before the deleted scene, this way the musical transitions between scenes would be less jarring.

That’s a great idea, thanks 😃

CourtlyHades296 said:

Do you plan on reinstating Sebastian Shaw in ROTJ?

Nope, and I explain why on the changes document, but I’ll post my reasons here too.

1. Anakin/Vader was only 46 when he died in-universe. Hayden Christensen is currently 39 and still looks a lot like he did in Revenge of the Sith (honestly they could reshoot scenes with him now and it wouldn’t even look like he aged a day). I’m pretty sure he’s not going to suddenly look like Sebastian Shaw in another 7 years. The only reason he looks old when unmasked is because of the physical toll the dark side has on one’s appearance. If he had never been disfigured or turned to the dark side, which I’m assuming is the image shown of him when he’s a force ghost, he would still look relatively young, and a lot like he did in Revenge of the Sith. He never looked like Sebastian Shaw in canon, and the only reason that was probably done in the original film is because I assume Vader was originally going to be older then he is in the now established canon.
2. People point out that Obi-Wan and Yoda are old and Anakin is young as a supposed reason as to why having Hayden Christensen as the force ghost is dumb, but that’s because, again, Anakin died relatively young. It’s as simple as that. In fact if anything it’s a luxury as Obi-Wan and Yoda got to live longer lives (though the quality of their longer lives is kinda debatable).
3. Seeing Anakin as we saw him from Revenge of the Sith has much more of an emotional impact on the viewer then seeing a random old man never seen before (I know it did on me). Not saying the audience would be too stupid to connect the dots that it’s Anakin, but I know from personal experience that seeing Anakin as his Revenge of the Sith self really has much more of an emotional resonance with audiences.

Him looking like Sebastian Shaw makes absolutely no logical sense. It’s literally only done in other edits because of purist personal bias.

Personally, I find it more compelling to see Anakin redeemed and becoming the person he should have been, which in ROTJ is Shaw, rather than an apparent regression to before he made the final few steps to turning evil.

Hal 9000 said:

Personally, I find it more compelling to see Anakin redeemed and becoming the person he should have been, which in ROTJ is Shaw, rather than an apparent regression to before he made the final few steps to turning evil.

That’s an interesting perspective.

BedeHistory731 said:

Also, until somebody like jhon, Sir Ridley, or Snooker does a “good” version of the Hayden Anakin ghost (i.e. not using Shaw’s body, Anakin giving a truly proud or happy expression like Shaw, and maybe wearing something akin to his ROTS robes), I’d say stick with Shaw.

I totally get your preference, but it’s more than just “purists” who prefer Shaw.

I do think that it would be great to see that, as it does kinda bother me how in one of the shots he kind of gives this creepy-vibe with one of his smiles. But until that happens (or I should probably say if it does) I’ll probably still stick with Hayden.

I do apologize for that rather ignorant, gatekeeping statement.

I just came up with an idea for a small dialogue change in Revenge of the Sith: you know the one line in which Sidious says “To cheat death is a power only one has achieved but if we work together, I know we can discover the secret”? While I absolutely love the delivery, I find it kind of strange because his previous lines say to Anakin he already knows how to do it, and giving away that he doesn’t is really odd. So I’d like to find a way to change the line so it’s “To cheat death is a power only a Sith can achieve”, which leads Anakin to say “I pledge myself, to your teachings.”

Very minor change, but I think it’ll improve the scene. What do you guys think?

Happened to find this on YouTube, it makes me wonder if I could possibly include this in my ANH edit in place of the Jabba scene if I can get it in good quality. I think it might help in my goal of giving Vader his own agenda.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vERG32o15J0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUunFoQBJsE

Adding something like this to my Return of the Jedi edit, yay or nay?

Working on new Padme death for ROTS. Here’s the 21B droid telling Palpatine that something’s up. Had to roto in a small clip from ESB and extend it the best I could, since the close-up lasts like less then 2 seconds.

I was going to try rotoscoping in Palpatine when he does his low growls during the knighting of Vader as a way of representing him doing the “taking life to give life” ritual, but it’s hard to get it to look right with all the hair and it does screw a bit with the continuity (as he’s wearing his red chancellor robes instead of black Sidious robes), so I’m thinking I’ll just insert a VO using Clone Wars dialogue.

Knight of Kalee said:

I don’t think that’s necessary, the scene needs to stay a personal exchange between Anakin and Luke, adding more characters would break the mood of the moment. Unless you make it extremely subtle and short, like a blink-and-you’ll-miss-it shadow.

Sorry for not replying sooner, but yeah, I agree, I won’t include this and I’ll leave it the way it is.

I’m pretty much done with the first draft of Padme’s edited death, but does anybody know of a time when Yoda says “the living force”? I’m trying to construct a line from him that goes “Losing the living force, she is. The work of the Sith, this must be.” by using words from different clips of Yoda speaking.

First draft of Padme’s new death

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCHuthekU04

Feedback is very much appreciated (though I have already noticed that Palpatine’s line are a little too quiet, so I have remedied that in my editing program; so no need to comment on it).

Second draft of ROTS new Padme death/Vader birth. Improved the rotoscoping on the 21B droid, made Palps louder and added some more sound effects.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czaaVtZFSFA

Knight of Kalee said:

Is there any chance you could change Vader’s ‘NO!’ with a foreign dub?

Hmmmmm, which one would you recommend? I tried using this one which I really liked but I couldn’t separate it from the baby cries.

https://youtu.be/8Krtzj0SX-Q?t=205

Other then that, what do you think of the scene? Do you think it’s ready to be in the film?

Knight of Kalee said:

As a concept, I’m totally on board with it 😄
I think Palpatine’s lines are still a tad too low (though easy to understand 😃 ). The rotoscoping for the medical droid is nice but to me it looks a bit clear it’s a slowed down shot.

The audio is good for me. The one transition that felt a bit strange was from Padmé’s gasping to Palpatine’s weird breath thing, perhaps because of there’s a sudden increase in volume at that point.

Other than that, this was surprisingly solid! Nice job!

PD: Here’s a cleaner version of that same Vader scream, it’s the french dub: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfGkPvfpjVY

Yeah, I’m going to fix the problem with Palpatine’s lines. Thanks regarding the rotoscoping, I spent hours on it so I’m glad to see it’s not gone unrecognized. It does bother me that it’s clearly slowed down but I’m not sure what I’d do about that, it’s literally the only usable shot of the 21B in existence (unless I want it facing backwards away from the camera).

Hmmmm, I’m not really sure what I’d do about the increase in volume, as it goes from playing one sound effect to three. Maybe I could try some more fades or turning down the volume on one.

Thanks, I’ve been kinda stressing about trying to perfect it, as unrealistic of a goal it might be I don’t want it to stick out like a sore thumb. I really hope I can make something fluent that a lot of people like.

I was actually aware of that. The problem is though is that the original version of the French dub doesn’t sound like Vader, it just sounds like a regular dude. The edit I linked earlier they did something to make it sound like Vader which I really like, I just don’t know how to replicate it.

The Russian dub sounds pretty good, so I may use that. It sounds more like a scream of anguish then a no, which I like. I’d rather have that or a Vader-ified French one in which the NOOOOO sounds more painful and natural as in my opinion, it’s not so much the line as it is the delivery.

I really would like to apologize for the wait on the Revenge of the Sith edit. But the reason why is because ROTS is my second favorite Star Wars movie (only behind ESB) so I want to make absolute certain I’m doing it justice, and I’ve also had other stuff going on in the meantime. I’ve had multiple debates with myself about keeping or removing certain things in certain places. The Google Doc is still up-to-date with my current plans though.

I’ve become a little conflicted with my edit of Padme’s death though, as while I still really like the idea of Palpatine killing Padme, I’ve kinda started to dislike the idea of Vader needing help in order to stay alive (beyond the suit), I think him being able to stay alive himself throughout that whole ordeal really showcased just how strong he was in the force (which is fitting with the new canon comics which show him to be the most powerful Sith in the galaxy). Also the fact that Vader’s suit essentially has an iron lung that breathes for him may make the way I have it edited right now not make sense. Maybe I can see if I can edit it some way so he kills her, but Vader isn’t dying.

I’ve also been considering making an additional version of my ROTS edit, an extended edition that includes The Siege of Mandalore for people who want to watch it as an ending to The Clone Wars series.

And finally after my ROTS edit is done I do plan on going back to my Phantom Menace and Attack of the Clones edits to fix up some minor editing errors I’ve noticed that bug me (like for one thing I’ve noticed that for some reason the highest quality my TPM edit is available in on Google Drive is 720p, which is weird, since I’m sure I exported it in 1080p) and possibly implement some new ideas.