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Movies suck these days, plain and simple. And the ones that look have good are not worth pay my left testy for.
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Originally posted by: segaflip
Movies suck these days, plain and simple. And the ones that look have good are not worth pay my left testy for.


thats very true. Even when they do manage to make a good movie Id rather wait for the dvd or till it comes to cable (especially with HD channels that show it in widescreen) then take out a second mortgage.
Why Anakin really turned to the dark side:
"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

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*touchy people disclaimer*
some or all of the above comments are partially exaggerated to convey a point, none of the comments are meant as personal attacks on anyone mentioned or reference in the above post
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Now, don't you also think that the movies are getting worse because the audience is dumbing down? I mean, if you want to be surrounded by idiots just go see one of these comedies like Scary Movie, which is one of the WORSE movies ever imagined - let alone produced. I blame the Wayans and the producers of American Pie-like comedies.


scary movie was made to be bad, every single thing in the movie was made to be cliche and stolen thats why its funny cause it makes fun of bad movies.


No, no. A movie made to BE bad was "Freddy Got Fingered". "Scary Movie" WAS bad.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Piracy has little to do with the success or failure of a film, contrary to what the MPAA lapdogs spew out to the news media. The decline in revenues is mainly because of 3 factors:

Movies are too expensive-$8 for matinee? Get bent.
Movies are generally poor quality compared to 15+ years ago-most movies today are purely money making schlock.
Consumers are used to DVDs and home theaters and many don't mind waiting for the DVD release, unless it's a "must see", which is rare these days. (the studios conveniently fail to mention that their DVD sales are soaring, which accounts for much of the return on a film's investment)

R rated films are far less common these days because they don't attract the audience they once did, so many films are made to fit the PG-13 mold, which further weakens the studios' credibility. This is partly why AvP was so terrible when it could have been great. The MPAA is quick to blame file sharing, which is laughable-would you rather have a highly compressed xvid or a full feature DVD? If someone likes something enough, they will purchase it-assuming it's available legally. "Piracy" is used as a common scapegoat, and the FBI's enforcement is a joke. They claim to have made it a top priority, but like the warning you see before a movie, it is mostly a scare tactic. They only worry about large counterfeiting operations or when an uploader of a new film can be easily traced. The real damage comes in from overseas counterfeiters who produce 1:1 copies from illegal stampers in places such as China and Malaysia, but the damage is mostly relegated to the local economy and does not really affect the bottom line of the studios. The studios refuse to lower their prices in overseas markets enough to make legal products affordable-do you really think someone from China is going to spend $12 on a legal DVD when they can buy a pirated copy for less than $1?
What this all boils down to is fear of change-the studios are still stuck in 1970's business models and are very reluctant to adapt. The same fortelling of doom was predicted when the VCR was introduced; thankfully forward thinking judges ruled in consumers' favor, and the studios eventually reaped huge profits by producing VHS movies for rental and sales. The same situation is happening today, and they would be wise to realize the potential p2p has to offer movie and TV distribution.
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Originally posted by: Warbler
I'd bet my money that you see nothing. Also, be prepared to run into roadblocks. The officals at your school might take a dim view at making light of a monk killing himself.


The thing is, St. Bernard is mainly a monastery, it just has a school on the grounds. I'm sure there would be a couple of older monks who still remember the incident.


I hope no one minds me deviating from topic, it's just that I don't have enough info on this project to give it its own thread yet.

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My thoughts on the decline:
There is no one factor that is causing the decline. As with everything, its a number of things working together:

1. Lack of Creativity. Its been said here already. Comic book movies, rehashes of the same old stories done before. Not much need to go into it.

2. I don't think anyone has mentioned anything about perceived political bias.
They do not like the politics of the actors involved (ex. like someone choosing not to see a movie with Martin Sheen or Susan Sarandon) or they do not like the way the movie attempts to influence them (Fahrenheit 9/11 or Day After Tomorrow).
This all boils down to people believing that Hollywood has lost touch with the rest of American society.

3. Certain aspects of the economy that make it more difficult to attend the movies. A family of 4 will end up paying $30-$40 for tickets and if anyone wants food, that's probably another $20-$30.
Not terribly affordable.

4. Availability of home theater systems and fast turnout/features of DVDs.

5. Not as many "family" movies.
How many of you would take 8-10 year old kids to see something like Stealth, Dukes of Hazzard or The Cave?
Likewise, would you sit through Sky High or another Pokemon movie?
There are less movies that bridge that gap.
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The quality of movies has gone done hill over time, lack of creativity or originality. High ticket prices, the advent of dvd, piracy and other factors are to blame. A survey done by entertainment weekly said Parents want more family fare, people want lower prices and no television ads before the previews. Most movies are classified as killing movies, cheapy horror movies, shoot em up sex movies, and a whole load of bullshit. PLus don't forget videogame style cgiied to death movies.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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Has anyone seen Brothers Grimm? Aside from the gratuitous kitty-killing moment, that's a pretty good movie.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I mentioned in an earlier post about a movie called Bomb the System. If anyone is interested in it its available on amazon.com at the below link
Like i said, it is made by a friend of my brothers. It does have an imdb listing, and it got good reviews from ny times and other papers. So check it out, and maybe get a copy if it interests you.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000AMJG6W/103-9804701-8959850?v=glance&s=dvd&n=507846&vi=tech-info

-Darth Simon
Why Anakin really turned to the dark side:
"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

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*touchy people disclaimer*
some or all of the above comments are partially exaggerated to convey a point, none of the comments are meant as personal attacks on anyone mentioned or reference in the above post
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The arcade died form to many carppy games and over satration of the market, movie are doing the same thing. They have gertaling root and are just cutting themselves off.