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I’d go for cutting that entire scene. It’s just so… Cringe.
Also having Lando show up for the first time when he appears to Poe is more dramatically affective.
Here’s how it would look like: https://vimeo.com/416400559

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idir_hh said:

I’d go for cutting that entire scene. It’s just so… Cringe.
Also having Lando show up for the first time when he appears to Poe is more dramatically affective.
Here’s how it would look like: https://vimeo.com/416400559

I really like this… might adjust my own edit to skip Lando’s scene on Pasaana.

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Movies Remastered said:

Why would the new characters know who he is? I trimmed out Rey’s snappy reply but I feel they needed the intro, maybe.

Poe, being a prominent member of the Resistance and son of a Rebel pilot that served with General Calrissian would recognise and know who he is.

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JakeRyan17 said:

Poe, being a prominent member of the Resistance and son of a Rebel pilot that served with General Calrissian would recognise and know who he is.

If that were the case do you think Finns response should be cut so Poe is th e first to speak after seeing Lando?

I’ve worked on this scene so much and I even found a way to remove Lando, ochi and the dagger up until Rey picks the dagger up in Kylos quarters. Then Landos intro can either be at the base or in the falcon cavalry. It does take a large chunk of the movie out though.

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Movies Remastered said:

JakeRyan17 said:

Poe, being a prominent member of the Resistance and son of a Rebel pilot that served with General Calrissian would recognise and know who he is.

If that were the case do you think Finns response should be cut so Poe is th e first to speak after seeing Lando?

I’ve worked on this scene so much and I even found a way to remove Lando, ochi and the dagger up until Rey picks the dagger up in Kylos quarters. Then Landos intro can either be at the base or in the falcon cavalry. It does take a large chunk of the movie out though.

If you wanted to be more conservative, you could just cut the scene with Lando, going from running from the Trooper Lando would have shot, to them stealing the speeders. There isn’t a lot of new information in that scene, other than explaining why Lando is there. Rey already knew Luke was tracking Ochi to Pasaana, how much more she knows from his journals is up to interpretation.

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JakeRyan17 said:

Movies Remastered said:

JakeRyan17 said:

If you wanted to be more conservative, you could just cut the scene with Lando, going from running from the Trooper Lando would have shot, to them stealing the speeders. There isn’t a lot of new information in that scene, other than explaining why Lando is there. Rey already knew Luke was tracking Ochi to Pasaana, how much more she knows from his journals is up to interpretation.

Yeah, I just found there were too many coincidences so removing Lando and Ochi at that point makes it feel a little more accidental and poignant when Rey sees ochis ship

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Movies Remastered said:

JakeRyan17 said:

Movies Remastered said:

JakeRyan17 said:

If you wanted to be more conservative, you could just cut the scene with Lando, going from running from the Trooper Lando would have shot, to them stealing the speeders. There isn’t a lot of new information in that scene, other than explaining why Lando is there. Rey already knew Luke was tracking Ochi to Pasaana, how much more she knows from his journals is up to interpretation.

Yeah, I just found there were too many coincidences so removing Lando and Ochi at that point makes it feel a little more accidental and poignant when Rey sees ochis ship

That’s fair. I just already cut out 13 minutes from that movie, haha. Including her destroying Kylo’s TIE on Pasaana (since it’s a major continuity error).

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DarthYcey said:

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Being worked on, the music cue is the issue. I can’t wait for that to be audibly polished.

I did a version of this with cleaner audio. I know some people didn’t like my transition, but it should be clean enough to re-work.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-5kuYFOjTgF5FavIgoqgVN0jbtX0zLJZ/view?usp=sharing

Your version sounds fine, but I think the issue is that Hal wanted to use the extended jump without TIEs that skenera and poppasketti worked on. I think ya’ll are probably looking for something more like this with the audio:

https://vimeo.com/427153302
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That might be the best I’ve heard so far. Could you send me the audio?

Is there a consensus about whether to move the first Falcon sequence to between “I’ll earn your brother’s saber” and “the Falcon’s back”?

And I hadn’t really considered removing Lando but doing so makes sense and would make that middle chunk a little less cluttered. Any against?

My stance on revising fan edits.

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Pacing wise, it’s gold.

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Hal 9000 said:

DarthYcey said:

JakeRyan17 said:

jarbear said:

Being worked on, the music cue is the issue. I can’t wait for that to be audibly polished.

I did a version of this with cleaner audio. I know some people didn’t like my transition, but it should be clean enough to re-work.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-5kuYFOjTgF5FavIgoqgVN0jbtX0zLJZ/view?usp=sharing

Your version sounds fine, but I think the issue is that Hal wanted to use the extended jump without TIEs that skenera and poppasketti worked on. I think ya’ll are probably looking for something more like this with the audio:

https://vimeo.com/427153302
fanedit

That might be the best I’ve heard so far. Could you send me the audio?

Will do.

Is there a consensus about whether to move the first Falcon sequence to between “I’ll earn your brother’s saber” and “the Falcon’s back”?

I think the difficulty is we no longer have an opening shot from space to end the crawl on. All 9 films start with a ship travelling by or to a planet in space.

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JakeRyan17 said:

That’s fair. I just already cut out 13 minutes from that movie, haha. Including her destroying Kylo’s TIE on Pasaana (since it’s a major continuity error).

FINALLY!!! I was told never to bring it up again, and I’ve had so many arguments online about that ship. You’re the only person whos agreed with me! I found several ways to play that scene out but I think I’ve picked the best one where it now looks like Kylo is coming from one side and the TIEs are coming from the other to pin them in. Rey loses control because of fear now, which gives Kylo the upper hand. 😃

I’m currently running at 2:12 but that’s with a bunch of new scenes

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Hal 9000 said:

And I hadn’t really considered removing Lando but doing so makes sense and would make that middle chunk a little less cluttered. Any against?

I like the idea, but I think Lando’s scene is actually the first time Ochi is mentioned by name, so you’d have to find a way to insert a mention of him into earlier in the movie. Also, Lando’s scene is the source of the film’s only “I have bad feeling about this” so you would have to add one of those somewhere else too.

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Movies Remastered said:

JakeRyan17 said:

That’s fair. I just already cut out 13 minutes from that movie, haha. Including her destroying Kylo’s TIE on Pasaana (since it’s a major continuity error).

FINALLY!!! I was told never to bring it up again, and I’ve had so many arguments online about that ship. You’re the only person whos agreed with me! I found several ways to play that scene out but I think I’ve picked the best one where it now looks like Kylo is coming from one side and the TIEs are coming from the other to pin them in. Rey loses control because of fear now, which gives Kylo the upper hand. 😃

I’m currently running at 2:12 but that’s with a bunch of new scenes

That’s an idea, to make it like multiple TIEs, I feel like I’d need a shot of First to Final Order pilot to really sell it… but it’s a thought for sure!

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Ed Slushie said:

Hal 9000 said:

And I hadn’t really considered removing Lando but doing so makes sense and would make that middle chunk a little less cluttered. Any against?

I like the idea, but I think Lando’s scene is actually the first time Ochi is mentioned by name, so you’d have to find a way to insert a mention of him into earlier in the movie. Also, Lando’s scene is the source of the film’s only “I have bad feeling about this” so you would have to add one of those somewhere else too.

That might be why I kept it… I had a feeling I didn’t chop it for a reason… maybe add that line to the last shot of Jannah when they’re talking at the end? 😂

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Ed Slushie said:

Hal 9000 said:

And I hadn’t really considered removing Lando but doing so makes sense and would make that middle chunk a little less cluttered. Any against?

Also, Lando’s scene is the source of the film’s only “I have bad feeling about this” so you would have to add one of those somewhere else too.

Could change Nien Nunb’s subtitled line, or pretend that’s what he said there with no subtitle. Or add Lando’s line to later during Exogol battle.

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DarthYcey said:

Ed Slushie said:

Hal 9000 said:

And I hadn’t really considered removing Lando but doing so makes sense and would make that middle chunk a little less cluttered. Any against?

Also, Lando’s scene is the source of the film’s only “I have bad feeling about this” so you would have to add one of those somewhere else too.

Could change Nien Nunb’s subtitled line, or pretend that’s what he said there with no subtitle. Or add Lando’s line to later during Exogol battle.

While the fleet is being electrocuted!

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To solve the problem of Ochi’s name, you could have Rey say his name while she puts her hand on the page with the wayfinder at the start of the film. That way, when she sees Ochi’s ship she instantly rememberes what Luke wrote in the Jedi texts. Or she can mention Ochi of Bestoon when she talks to Poe about following Luke’s trail in the forbidden desert of passana.

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idir_hh said:

To solve the problem of Ochi’s name, you could have Rey say his name while she puts her hand on the page with the wayfinder at the start of the film. That way, when she sees Ochi’s ship she instantly rememberes what Luke wrote in the Jedi texts. Or she can mention Ochi of Bestoon when she talks to Poe about following Luke’s trail in the forbidden desert of passana.

I was just watching it back to see if you mention his name to Leia…

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JakeRyan17 said:

That’s an idea, to make it like multiple TIEs, I feel like I’d need a shot of First to Final Order pilot to really sell it… but it’s a thought for sure!

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Hal 9000 said:

Is there a consensus about whether to move the first Falcon sequence to between “I’ll earn your brother’s saber” and “the Falcon’s back”?

I like moving those scenes around. It just seems to flow better, but that might just be me.

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Is there a consensus about whether to move the first Falcon sequence to between “I’ll earn your brother’s saber” and “the Falcon’s back”?

Are you still keeping the “I’ll earn your brother’s saber” scene after Idir_hh pointed out the continuety error?

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And I hadn’t really considered removing Lando but doing so makes sense and would make that middle chunk a little less cluttered. Any against?

For what it is worth, I am not in favor of this change. I like the Lando introduction and his exchange about sending Leia his love. Sure it is overly nostalgic and perhaps interrupts the pacing a tad, but without this scene then Lando is definitely nothing more than a glorified cameo in my opinion.

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Darth Sadifous said:

And I hadn’t really considered removing Lando but doing so makes sense and would make that middle chunk a little less cluttered. Any against?

For what it is worth, I am not in favor of this change. I like the Lando introduction and his exchange about sending Leia his love. Sure it is overly nostalgic and perhaps interrupts the pacing a tad, but without this scene then Lando is definitely nothing more than a glorified cameo in my opinion.

The logic of the scene has always bothered me. Lando is the choice to go with Luke to track down a Sith assassin? And when Luke gives up to go train the next generation of Jedi, Lando just stays there? For ~30 years? Not continuing to track down the assassin, nor continuing his search for his daughter… just decides to chill the the desert, and wait 30 of the 42 years for the festival?

So many Story and logic issues.

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JakeRyan17 said:

I think the difficulty is we no longer have an opening shot from space to end the crawl on. All 9 films start with a ship travelling by or to a planet in space.

Isn’t Hal’s version supposed to begin with Mustafar? Though maybe someone could repurpose or edit a shot of the planet from space, for any edit that seeks to begin with Rey’s training.

General thoughts

  • Lando is supposed to stay in Pasaana for like 15 years. Granted, one shouldn’t be looking at extra material to fill these kind of holes.
    Yeah the premise of the Lando subplot is strange, but that´s because Lando’s reasoning to stay on the planet was supposed to be to cope with the loss of his daughter and that was cut from the film. I have mixed feelings about cutting Lando’s entire screentime on Pasaana. I know it’s too convenient and makes the overall sequence drag a bit, but we would need to work around the references to Ochi, his ship and his relation to the Wayfinder. And Lando’s cameo at the end wouldn’t have any buildup.

  • Moving the Falcon sequence to after Rey’s training course feels like a better choice pacing-wise. In that case, would the chess scene still be moved to the epilogue?