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DominicCobb said:

omnimuffin said:

I don’t have any problem with the concept; all of the Knights wear thick enough clothing that you wouldn’t be able to tell any more than you could tell Enfys Nest was a woman. My problem is that Sollony ain’t one of the Knights of Ren we see in the flashback or in any of the supporting material. She comes out of nowhere.

How do we know that? We don’t have the script.

You’re both wrong. Sollony could be any one of the knights we’ve already seen, and we do have a script (though maybe not the exact draft you’re looking for). It was leaked and confirmed as real by Trevorrow himself, remember?

Anyway, I think this article makes a very good point: it’s not the ending that messes everything up, it’s the pointlessly meandering middle. Nothing of consequence happens until the finale, which on its own is actually fairly solid IMO, if uninspired.

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DominicCobb said:

omnimuffin said:

I don’t have any problem with the concept; all of the Knights wear thick enough clothing that you wouldn’t be able to tell any more than you could tell Enfys Nest was a woman. My problem is that Sollony ain’t one of the Knights of Ren we see in the flashback or in any of the supporting material. She comes out of nowhere.

How do we know that? We don’t have the script.

Because she appears in the original draft, which we do have.

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StarkillerAG said:

DominicCobb said:

StarkillerAG said:

You can’t read the full draft yet, but you can read a plot summary here:

https://makingstarwars.net/2020/01/i-read-colin-trevorrow-and-derek-connollys-final-star-wars-episode-ix-script/

I don’t think it’s much of an improvement. Mustafar, Coruscant, and Mortis are replaced with generic planets, and there’s a female Knight of Ren who only exists to give Rey and Kylo someone to team up against once Kylo turns good.

What’s wrong with a female knight of Ren?

Did you even read what I said? I don’t have a problem with the idea in theory, it’s just that she only exists to give Rey and Kylo someone to team up against.

I did, your wording was not clear at all, that’s why I asked. Also, I don’t think we can say she “only” exists for that purpose, since we don’t have the script.

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DominicCobb said:

omnimuffin said:

I don’t have any problem with the concept; all of the Knights wear thick enough clothing that you wouldn’t be able to tell any more than you could tell Enfys Nest was a woman. My problem is that Sollony ain’t one of the Knights of Ren we see in the flashback or in any of the supporting material. She comes out of nowhere.

How do we know that? We don’t have the script.

You’re both wrong. Sollony could be any one of the knights we’ve already seen, and we do have a script (though maybe not the exact draft you’re looking for). It was leaked and confirmed as real by Trevorrow himself, remember?

Nothing I said is wrong. We’re talking about a script that we don’t have access to (the one with Sollony).

omnimuffin said:

DominicCobb said:

omnimuffin said:

I don’t have any problem with the concept; all of the Knights wear thick enough clothing that you wouldn’t be able to tell any more than you could tell Enfys Nest was a woman. My problem is that Sollony ain’t one of the Knights of Ren we see in the flashback or in any of the supporting material. She comes out of nowhere.

How do we know that? We don’t have the script.

Because she appears in the original draft, which we do have.

She does not.

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jonh said:

the force ghost version 2.0 (Today I will upload it to drive in maximum quality 😃 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iELUFjl16-U

Jedis a little more visible, more force ghost glow … and improves in the last shot

What made you change the Alec Guinness close up? I like the slight extra glow.

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Movies Remastered said:

jonh said:

the force ghost version 2.0 (Today I will upload it to drive in maximum quality 😃 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iELUFjl16-U

Jedis a little more visible, more force ghost glow … and improves in the last shot

What made you change the Alec Guinness close up? I like the slight extra glow.

I liked the new shot more, but you choose the one you like best for your edition !! 😃

I will soon go up to drive in high quality

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jonh said:

Movies Remastered said:

jonh said:

the force ghost version 2.0 (Today I will upload it to drive in maximum quality 😃 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iELUFjl16-U

Jedis a little more visible, more force ghost glow … and improves in the last shot

What made you change the Alec Guinness close up? I like the slight extra glow.

I liked the new shot more, but you choose the one you like best for your edition !! 😃

I will soon go up to drive in high quality

I like his expression more but I feel the framing is off with him being on the left.

The new edition of Luke lowering his hand with the other ghosts IS GREAT. It does stand out a little too much though, is the transparency on his arm the same as his body? Feels a bit too white.

Awesome work though, Dude.

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idir_hh said:

They really tried to pretend the prequels didn’t exist.

I was saying this earlier; it really feels like Disney wanted BOTH a total 100% blank slate franchise but also cashing in on nostalgia from the OT. So we got a mishmash that went back and forth with each person putting in the only parts of the lore they wanted to continue and ignoring anything else…kind of like an EU writer, really.

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it really feels like Disney wanted BOTH a total 100% blank slate franchise

Again - this isn’t the case.

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Getting back on track, I know Snooker’s computer loss kind of prevented the possibility of any Naboo “elder heads” being motion-tracked onto Ajan Kloss, but I was thinking: what if in that shot of Rey staring off into the forest (just before they leave for Pasaana) she was looking at an elder head? It’s a stationary shot so theoretically it would be easier to add. I know a lot of people have moved past the “Ajan Kloss = Naboo” idea, but since Snooker already gave us that cool shot of Theed in the distance I don’t want to abandon it completely.

Edit: Nevermind, I just re-watched the scene and it turns out I was remembering it incorrectly: the camera does move in that shot, too.

You’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Am I making Carrie Fisher’s ghost proud?”
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jonh said:

the force ghost version 2.0 (Today I will upload it to drive in maximum quality 😃 )
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iELUFjl16-U

Jedis a little more visible, more force ghost glow … and improves in the last shot

Your ghosts edit has been posted on the main Italian Star Wars Facebook page and website (Guerrestellari.net) 😉

Italian faneditor.

EDITS LIST:
Episode IV - THE HEIR OF SKYWALKER. Episode VI - RETURN OF THE JEDI RENEWED. DYAD IN THE FORCE (3-into-1 sequels).
PM me for links if interested.

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Used frame interpolation to slow down/extend some shots.

Rey Meditating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kwfGpav6A4
Rose looking conflicted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rheQxglHw8
Kylo Choking that guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiWDE7UlKCk
Chewie expressing concern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_4UCkobI9o
The fleet’s triumphant arrival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2qF-9kYJ84
Poe Mourning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkam7mPucTQ
The Tantive IV falls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO5mIjJztq8

None have sound except Rey and Chewie. The fleet and the Tantive IV both need work.

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DominicCobb said:

StarkillerAG said:

DominicCobb said:

StarkillerAG said:

You can’t read the full draft yet, but you can read a plot summary here:

https://makingstarwars.net/2020/01/i-read-colin-trevorrow-and-derek-connollys-final-star-wars-episode-ix-script/

I don’t think it’s much of an improvement. Mustafar, Coruscant, and Mortis are replaced with generic planets, and there’s a female Knight of Ren who only exists to give Rey and Kylo someone to team up against once Kylo turns good.

What’s wrong with a female knight of Ren?

Did you even read what I said? I don’t have a problem with the idea in theory, it’s just that she only exists to give Rey and Kylo someone to team up against.

I did, your wording was not clear at all, that’s why I asked. Also, I don’t think we can say she “only” exists for that purpose, since we don’t have the script.

Anakin Starkiller said:

DominicCobb said:

omnimuffin said:

I don’t have any problem with the concept; all of the Knights wear thick enough clothing that you wouldn’t be able to tell any more than you could tell Enfys Nest was a woman. My problem is that Sollony ain’t one of the Knights of Ren we see in the flashback or in any of the supporting material. She comes out of nowhere.

How do we know that? We don’t have the script.

You’re both wrong. Sollony could be any one of the knights we’ve already seen, and we do have a script (though maybe not the exact draft you’re looking for). It was leaked and confirmed as real by Trevorrow himself, remember?

Nothing I said is wrong. We’re talking about a script that we don’t have access to (the one with Sollony).

omnimuffin said:

DominicCobb said:

omnimuffin said:

I don’t have any problem with the concept; all of the Knights wear thick enough clothing that you wouldn’t be able to tell any more than you could tell Enfys Nest was a woman. My problem is that Sollony ain’t one of the Knights of Ren we see in the flashback or in any of the supporting material. She comes out of nowhere.

How do we know that? We don’t have the script.

Because she appears in the original draft, which we do have.

She does not.

You’re right. For some reason, I’d mixed her up with the darksaber-wielding Knight of Ren in the original script.

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Ed Slushie said:

Used frame interpolation to slow down/extend some shots.

Rey Meditating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kwfGpav6A4
Rose looking conflicted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rheQxglHw8
Kylo Choking that guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiWDE7UlKCk
Chewie expressing concern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_4UCkobI9o
The fleet’s triumphant arrival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2qF-9kYJ84
Poe Mourning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkam7mPucTQ
The Tantive IV falls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO5mIjJztq8

None have sound except Rey and Chewie. The fleet and the Tantive IV both need work.

the result is nice, but what’s the point here?

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oviniboy said:

Ed Slushie said:

Used frame interpolation to slow down/extend some shots.

Rey Meditating: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kwfGpav6A4
Rose looking conflicted: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rheQxglHw8
Kylo Choking that guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tiWDE7UlKCk
Chewie expressing concern: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_4UCkobI9o
The fleet’s triumphant arrival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2qF-9kYJ84
Poe Mourning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkam7mPucTQ
The Tantive IV falls: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uO5mIjJztq8

None have sound except Rey and Chewie. The fleet and the Tantive IV both need work.

the result is nice, but what’s the point here?

Hopefully, to improve breakneck pacing of some of the scenes. I doubt most of them will work in the context of the whole movie, but I thought it was worth making these available to other fan editors in case they do.

You’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Am I making Carrie Fisher’s ghost proud?”
Well, are ya, punk?

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Ed Slushie said:

oviniboy said:

Ed Slushie said:

Hopefully, to improve breakneck pacing of some of the scenes. I doubt most of them will work in the context of the whole movie, but I thought it was worth making these available to other fan editors in case they do.

I think the main issue is jumping from place to place so quickly rather than the length of a clip. I like the work you’ve done though.

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Hey everyone.
I was looking at some DOTF concepts, and I stumbled on a really insteresting one, is basically a “heaven” where Rey would go after she defeats Kylo or something like that.

This: https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https%3A%2F%2Fi2.wp.com%2Fwww.cinespression.it%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2020%2F02%2FyQa0HevP_o.jpg%3Ffit%3D1800%2C877%26ssl%3D1&imgrefurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.cinespression.it%2Fstar-wars-duel-of-the-fates-ecco-una-serie-di-nuovi-concept-art-dal-film-di-colin-trevorrow%2Famp%3D1&tbnid=lPon3Aaq2PdseM&vet=12ahUKEwiCxvuP1vDpAhViB7kGHVK1Bs4QMygBegQIARAb..i&docid=lmCztP4Sbey3KM&w=1800&h=877&q=star wars duel of the fates concept art&hl=en&ved=2ahUKEwiCxvuP1vDpAhViB7kGHVK1Bs4QMygBegQIARAb

And I have this buging me for a while, because I think it’s a nice concept that we can, somehow, create and implement with some hard work. Thinking on the possibility of making this real (since most of imagens we can take from pre-existing materials), I’ve written a script of a possible scene.

Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1EXidngkKFB847_n1PDjKKPRUaV0wuTwT/view?usp=sharing

I think this could be a good scene, it helps to give context, slow down the pacing, and give an overall message and expansion lore-wise. All we need to make this real is a really good editor (there’s a lot of excelent ones here), some nice voice-actors (not really hard to find with we look close) and a LOT of creativity. Anyway, just wishfull thinking on what we could do with some hard work. Tell me what you think.

JEDIT: The link i shared have the option of making comments. Feel free to tell me what you think can be improved there (so as here).

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jonh said:

(I have put this in another thread)
Shit! I have noticed that in part 2, an unwanted frame. i just fixed the vesion, shit shit shit, f_king ghosts. sorry friends I’m a disaster (artist) hahah
I don’t know what done! I upload them again
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ev1ODAXgouAIuTH5c2neUsGzxdDsJRG5
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OT3RpMKUx2RXdGWDK6Kwz5HFvKQDxbLF
on the other hand, I have made a different version of the most closed close-ups of the jedi, in part 1, obi wan is new … I upload it so that people choose the version that they like the most.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QMCqY5AoESOLGeIAZXWdmSWi7q_ZQ8L_

Sorry!!!

The update to part 2 is great especially now that you retimed it so the original audio can stay intact. Sweet!

heil Palpatine!

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krausfadr said:

jonh said:

(I have put this in another thread)
Shit! I have noticed that in part 2, an unwanted frame. i just fixed the vesion, shit shit shit, f_king ghosts. sorry friends I’m a disaster (artist) hahah
I don’t know what done! I upload them again
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ev1ODAXgouAIuTH5c2neUsGzxdDsJRG5
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1OT3RpMKUx2RXdGWDK6Kwz5HFvKQDxbLF
on the other hand, I have made a different version of the most closed close-ups of the jedi, in part 1, obi wan is new … I upload it so that people choose the version that they like the most.
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QMCqY5AoESOLGeIAZXWdmSWi7q_ZQ8L_

Sorry!!!

The update to part 2 is great especially now that you retimed it so the original audio can stay intact. Sweet!

you have on this page the last update

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS3aibHJ5yQ

Added Across the Stars to the ending celebration scene in place of Yoda’s Theme. Hopefully this makes Poe and Finn’s embrace seem more romantic.

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Ed Slushie said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BS3aibHJ5yQ

Added Across the Stars to the ending celebration scene in place of Yoda’s Theme. Hopefully this makes Poe and Finn’s embrace seem more romantic.

I slid the Han/Leia romance theme from Lando/Jannah’s scene over to Poe and Finn’s embrace, and added Poe’s line (originally to Zorri) “Can I kiss you?” And his flirtatious head motions to it. Full on StormPilot.