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Shimraa
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I THINK I FIGURED IT OUT - WHY SO MANY SW FANS DISLIKED THE PT...
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19-Jul-2004, 3:59 PM

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I don't agree. I think 20 years from now, people who are kids now will feel passionately about Harry Potter maybe not as passionately we are about the OT, but certainly more passionately then they will feel in regards to the PT(with the exception of Jimbo or course). I believe that people can still get entranced watching movies.


harry potter is a book, it was the book the entranced ppl not the movies, the movie where just additive.

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they why does everything in the PT look and feel more futuristic than the OT?


well there is two answers that question, first as i said b4, the PT takes place in a happier time when things are goood the galaxy is at peace. things are going to look alot better b/c of a lil formula peace = properity = lots of ppl having money and wanting to look good = cooler looking ships. and another thing besides the naboo fighters what in the PT looks more advanced they the OT. you dont see ships the size of Death stars or Star Destroyers. the big clone ships are troop transports not battle ships. in the PT you see mini walkers that look less advanced then the walkers in ESB. to tell you the trueth the only ships in the PT that look better then ships in the OT are the naboo Royal Fighter which have higly polished hulls so they look like mirrors. you know the look more advanced because there not F**kin models which are bloody impossible to make look advanced.

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true. But the PT didn't have to take place in peace. It could have started up in the middle of the Clone wars.


IT COULDN'T HAVE STARTED IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CLONE WARS, B/C there would be no basis for what was going on, we would know half the story, we would have known anything about naboo, which was important in some of the political scenes in AOTC, we would know where anakin was or how 'good' he really was in the begining( which defeats the purpose of the PT) we wouldnt know about anything that happned in AOTCs cus that movie ended with the begining of the clone wars. inother words your writing off 2 thirds the PT which in my opinion you dont have the RIGHT to do. you can write off parts but not the whole bloody thing.

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the scope of the OT wasn't Galactic? lets see.......a story about a group of rebel freedom fighters trying to overthrow an evil Galactic empire and free the whole Galaxy is not of Galactic scope? hmmmm, then what is?


did you get nothing about what i said. here ill make is ezier for you. it is not galactic in the sence that you dont have two KEY events that happen at the same time that are in different parts of the galaxy. in the TPM you have events occuring on curosant, naboo, and tatooien at the same time. in AOTC, there is stuff occuring that we see on naboo, curosant, geonosis, and tatoonie. did you see anyhting like that in the OT the most we ever say was luke on dagobah and every one else somewhere else together. if you dont get what i am say there then you'll never get it.

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wrong, they both have the Star Wars name and they are both from the same universe and are both part the same movie series therefor they should have a simular look and feel.
But the fact that they don't have the same feel is not why the PT stinks (in my opinion). It stinks because of a bad storyline, bad acting, flat characters, too much CGI, too many plot holes, and Jar Jar Stinks.


No no i am not wrong, maybe if you would open your mind a lil we can compare it to other series where the movies are continutive, and they take place ofr a 50 year span. well the first series like that tocome to mind are the STAR TREK movies. what was the feel in old movies. they were dusty and grity. in the new movies everything is newer and more sleak. the movies have the same name but they are DEFINATELY DONT HAVE THE SAME FEEL. this all goes back to my I think i figured it out idea, the movies are too different for some OT ffans to accept. that is the reason plain and simple.

what si bad about the story line tell me specifics?
what is bad about the acting asides from the fact that they have corny lines? (something that the OT had aswell but at the time when the OT came out they werent corny) once again specifics.
how are the characters flat, define flat for me so i know what you mean, specific examples?
what is wrong with CGI it is a tool used by all movies today? i could use the same excuse and say that the OT sucks cus yoda looks like a puppet he is not real. but i dont cus that is a stupid reason. and is has no basis.
Give me examples of Plot holes? Asides from the medachloirnes one which can be argued either way and has be rehashed too many times, you say there are too many give me more then 4. cus if the PT has more the 5 plot holes then i would define that as too many aswell.
You can say he sucks as much as you waht but the fact is that it is childish and immature to dislike a trilogy because of one character that is playes a supporting role.

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If that is true shouldn't Lucas have realized this when he was deciding how he was going to make the PT. He should have said to himself "if I make the PT this way(the way he made it, that is) it will be different from the OT and OT fans won't like it. So maybe I should make the PT in a style that more closely resembles the OT so the fans will like it more


NO because she doesnt answer to the fans, its his story, his movie, his stuff, not yours. he didnt make it for the fans he made it too complete his vision, if he were make it for the fan he would have made them back in the 80s rather then wait 20 odd years. and you cant say that he is stupid for doing it that is like say that tolkien is stupid for scorching the shire at the end of lotr. tolkien wanted to socrch the shire it was part of his vision. just like lucas is making the PT the way it is cus its part if his vision..

its not stupid not to release the OT its just cruel. but again its HIS choice. no one else decides but him, and you cant call him stupid cus what he does, doesnt clear your approval, he is alot older the most of you, and he is the creator of Star Wars what it is now it what it was always going to be. it is part of what you have always loved you just didn't know it at the time. if he doesnt want the OT out there on DVD it is because the OT was not his full vision, now he is able to fulfill his full vision so he is not you going to keep reprintingg old stuff. it like if you have a computer program, lets say adobe photoshop. you have adobe photoshop 6 out on the market so why would you re-release adobe photoshop 2. that is probably the way he sees it which is not a stupid way of looking at it, it is just different.