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So it's all about just shoving VHS out the door as quickly as possible without any thanks for all those years of faithful service. Talk about ingratitude, eh?
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VHS may be dead already, but i still would like to complete the set since i have the other five episodes.

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Was there a VHS version of last year's OT set? I never saw one...
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Originally posted by: ADigitalMan
That's okay. So long as the OOT is on VHS the format will at least be un-dead.


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I, for one, am not going to miss the VHS format. Good riddence. What about loyalty? Emotions to inanimate objects is a scary thing.
A VHS release would only be good for: 1. Hard core completists 2. Pulling it out of a box in 40 years to show the grandkids who will ask, "What the heck is that?"
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Originally posted by: Sluggo
I, for one, am not going to miss the VHS format. Good riddence. What about loyalty? Emotions to inanimate objects is a scary thing.
A VHS release would only be good for: 1. Hard core completists 2. Pulling it out of a box in 40 years to show the grandkids who will ask, "What the heck is that?"


Exactly.

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I, for one, am not going to miss the VHS format. Good riddence. What about loyalty? Emotions to inanimate objects is a scary thing.
A VHS release would only be good for: 1. Hard core completists 2. Pulling it out of a box in 40 years to show the grandkids who will ask, "What the heck is that?"


Exactly.


Not exactly. Again, there are millions of people who still own millions of VHS tapes, and millions of people who don't own DVD's, no matter how popular they've become. Those aren't hardcore completists; they're SW fans with stacks of VHS in the den. There wasn't much in the way of home video before VHS, and now that there's about 20 years' worth of VHS releases, some people just won't be buying many DVD's in their lifetime-- a lot of them owning Star Wars flicks on tape. Why deny them the chance to purchase it? Esp. when the same company IS putting out Mr. & Mrs. Smith on tape, which seriously-- will not sell half as many copies as Sith would. My mom has a DVD player, but she still buys VHS, and I don't think she'll ever buy a DVD recorder and record sitcoms and Oprah on DVD-R's. There's lots of moms out there. And grandmoms.

Just because DVD's are the latest video format, doesn't change the fact that some people have VCR's that are still blinking [12:00]... [12:00]...
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Now you know why DVD players don't have clocks.

"but there's a different tactile experience with the 12" media that you just don't get with DVD. The discs feel simultaneously substantial and delicate, and a gatefold jacket allows plenty of room for nice big artwork."

And LD will always kick DVD's ass when it comes to fast-forward and rewind.

"Why not release it as widely as possible? I mean, they've never seemed to have a problem milking the cash cow before. Why start now?"

I have no problem picturing Lucas wanting to point out how outdated VHS is, just as much as he points out how outdated film is.

Of course, I'm sure he wishes LD was too outdated to use as well...

"Like releasing Phantom Menace on LD in Japan only."

It had a much better market there.

"You know, come to think of it, not only will ROTS not be on VHS to complete the set, Lucas' newest vision of the OT won't be on VHS either."

Exactly.

"Not exactly. Again, there are millions of people who still own millions of VHS tapes, and millions of people who don't own DVD's"

Agreed. My friend has invested a small fortune in all his Disney and various other kids films on VHS, and doesn't feel like repeating this anytime soon. And children's DVDs aren't necessarily more convenient than the VHS equivalents. They both have forced ads, and as far as I can tell, no VHS version had the ability to lock out your fast-forward button like DVD can. Of course, this is why I rip my kids' movies, so that only the feature plays, but this shouldn't be necessary.

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Actually, every dealer here had to import Phantom Menace, and it did sell out. The SW/Lucasfilm fan club initially offered it for sale through their magazine, but then cancelled out saying they wouldn't be able to offer it after all. It ended up Ebay fodder for quite a while, much like the criminally underpressed Matrix LD.
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HONESTLY, I'M HAPPY TO SEE VHS GO. I HAVEN'T BOUGHT ANYTHING ON VHS IN YEARS. I TAKE THAT BACK. I'VE BOUGHT A FEW CHEAP KIDS VHS MOVIES FOR MY KIDS, BUT EVEN MY SEVEN YEAR OLD DAUGHTER PREFERS DVD. SHE'S HAD A DVD PLAYER IN HER ROOM FOR TWO YEARS NOW.

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And LD will always kick DVD's ass when it comes to fast-forward and rewind.


What's with the LD ff/rewind? I never had a laserdisc player, so I'm unaware. I would've been all over LD, too, if it wasn't a)pretty expensive, or b)mercilessly made obsolete before I had a chance. One of my local hometown Blockbusters started carrying laserdiscs soon before DVD's hit, and I was all excited at the prospect of seeing bonus features, and wanted to rent a player, or something. I think it might've literally been only a few weeks, or a couple months, and the LD's were gone. Is LD a more satisfying movie-watching experience than DVD?

Meanwhile, when DVD's came out, all there was to choose from was: The Mask (the first DVD I ever saw with bonus material), The Wizard of Oz, and Goodfellas.

And I HATE the forced DVD previews and screens you can't fast-forward, or skip over. I always think, "Damn, I this never happened with VHS." You have more consumer freedom on a dead tape format than the high-tech digital one. And the ongoing music on menu screens if you go to the kitchen for a snack and it plays repeatedly, endlessly-- that gets irksome, too. Minor quibbles, but still.

I'm surprised that there wouldn't be at least a limited VHS Sith release. Just put out less copies, or make it available online, or something. Is it also not going to be released on PAL tape? What about Canada?
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
the format isn't as dead as ... 8-tracks
I'd listen to em if we had a working player.

I don't buy new releases on VHS anymore, but I still will buy em when they're a few bucks for a film I'd like to have.
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Laserdiscs in the CAV mode literally allowed you to access any frame or segment on the disc within seconds and you could run something like the Death Star explosion backwards and forwards like a movie projector at variable speeds, or stop on a dime and find the naughty frames in Roger Rabbit.
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Laserdiscs in the CAV mode literally allowed you to access any frame or segment on the disc within seconds and you could run something like the Death Star explosion backwards and forwards like a movie projector at variable speeds, or stop on a dime and find the naughty frames in Roger Rabbit.


Cool-- what's "CAV mode"? And in a seemingly ongoing quest to alter cinema, I think they removed the naughty frames of Roger Rabbit from the DVD.
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That's why I haven't gotten the DVD. I'm surprised Robert Zemeckis let that happen. The Back to the Future discs were actually more like the theatrical release than the VHS copies. Of course, Bob Gale had more to do with that than Bob Zemeckis...

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"Laserdiscs in the CAV mode literally allowed you to access any frame or segment on the disc within seconds and you could run something like the Death Star explosion backwards and forwards like a movie projector at variable speeds"

And newer players do it with CLV mode, too.

Basically, MPEG is a forward-encoding process: Changes from one frame to the next are encoded, and anything that doesn't change is left as is. Now, in order to watch the film backwards, the DVD player must look at the frame prior to the one you are viewing. Needless to say, this is a tedious process, and it works for fast forward as well. There's a great deal of computation involved, which is why early players sucked at it.

LD, on the other hand, just shows whatever frame it's on, and FF/RR occurs at whatever speed you want with no delay. No muss, no fuss.

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Ok I don't care about the Episode 3 movie not going out on VHS.

But from a home video editing point of view, VHS is absolutely useless. But as far as I'm concerned, DVD-R isn't much better. I've been delegated the enormous job (hahah... poor old me) of getting together ALL our home videos (this is everything, from the 70's to the present, so this includes Super8 reels, Hi8, VHS, Digital8... whatever you call 'em) and putting them on a format that's easier to watch.

I heard this awful rumour that the dye in DVD-R (and CD-R's for that matter) is continually shifting, and that in a decade I won't even be able to watch the damned things! So what, am I just doing this for kicks, knowing I'll have to do it all again in about ten years? I hope not.

But back to VHS - it's just crap. It's causing all sorts of problems whenever I want to capture stuff off of it (put it down to these ridiculous tapes that I've got that for some reason will only play on one VCR). Visual quality isn't actually that bad really, it's been good enough for 25 years hasn't it?

I mean look, it's the reason this whole site exists isn't it? You guys - just make yer own VHS cover, dub the Fullscreen DVD onto a tape, and voila. You're done.
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I still buy used VHS and blanks myself. Disc based formats usually hate me. The prices are a steal too.


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Well... isn't this awkward?

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Honestly, I wish there was a definitive fromat, a final, best quality one. Of course there will always be bigger (or smaller) and better ones, but theres hd-dvd, or hopefully blu-ray coming out next year to replace dvd. It just keeps going and going! Oh yeah, that brings up another discussion, for another thread. HD-DVD or Blu-ray? Pefect for this site.
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I just found this over at amazon.


I was wondering if it was gonna be on VHS in the UK. Makes even less sense not to rock the NTSC here then. Although I gather that the US tape preservation efforts won't be very wide scale.

We're probably never gonna have one format, but the different, largely staggered international release dates (not to mention the number of DVD Regions) don't make much sense-- seems to promote bootlegging and piracy. Except if you're George Lucas and have the juice to make it simultaneous worldwide.
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IMO there are still many, many films on VHS that have not seen DVD, so I for one am glad to not see any new VHS releases. maybe the studio's will speed up there DVD Burning of those classic's. It's too slow going.

The OOT of Eps 4,5,6 are the only reason to keep your VHS Deck same goes for LD.

I wonder was there ever a release of the star wars films on Beta?? I do not remember seeing any.
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Originally posted by: JangoxFettThe OOT of Eps 4,5,6 are the only reason to keep your VHS Deck


Not to mention:

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