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The mirroring of the Vader Castle does make it seem like its a new shot (along with the removal of Krennic’s ship)

What can also help sell that too is if you don’t use the “whole” clip.

Here is a quick and dirty rough idea if moving the Vader helmet scene towards the beginning. As for the middle of it, I didn’t do anything to it since I wanted to show just the “kylo” footage with Vader’s helmet. Obviously the idea would be to alter all that flashback/imagery/sounds/etc. to fit more on the lines of “Vader” guiding Kylo.

Just super rough idea playing with a bit this afternoon:

https://vimeo.com/418658350
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“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”

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EPISODE IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER
After Jedi Master Luke Skywalker’s valiant last stand at the BATTLE OF CRAIT, the spark of hope lives on. To suppress the growing uprising, the diabolical FIRST ORDER silences all communication between neighboring systems.

To unite the desperate worlds, the RESISTANCE dispatches agents across the galaxy while Rey, the last of the Jedi, continues her training under General Leia Organa.

Meanwhile, a disturbance in the FORCE has led Supreme Leader Kylo Ren to MUSTAFAR in search of a Sith artifact…

I like this. It has power and impact, and is concise and to the point. How about some minor changes:

“After Jedi Master Luke Skywalker’s heroic last stand”

“To unite the disparate worlds,”

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DominicCobb said:

The solution in my head that’d work is you color correct both to match each other, and then in the wide shot of Kylo post battle you add some lava flow.

Ideally as well what’d be added to the clean RO shots would be the three TIE fighters we see in the opening shot.

Yes.

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Yep, he asked and received.

Hey, in looking over the Anti-Cringe cut, I think it would be worth considering showing a brief ‘flash’ vision of Rey on the throne right as she backs away at the Rey Palpatine revelation in the hangar.

It’s a little off-norm for Star Wars but it might help that moment more explicitly tie into her existing fear of her inner darkness.

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Hmmm…

Crawl

Pan down to establishing shot of TIEs flying over Mustafar

Cut to interior of Star Destroyer, as Vader’s helmet emerges and Kylo places his hand on it. Maybe Vader says something vaguely relevant or just the vision that was there originally. Kylo begins to walk off.

Color corrected TFA teaser shot of Kylo walking in the woods, crouching and lighting his saber.

A couple establishing shots of Mustafar, ideally with three TIEs somewhere in there

Main scene as Kylo slaughters people

The wayfinder says “Find me”

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Hal 9000 said:

Hmmm…

Crawl

Pan down to establishing shot of TIEs flying over Mustafar

Cut to interior of Star Destroyer, as Vader’s helmet emerges and Kylo places his hand on it. Maybe Vader says something vaguely relevant or just the vision that was there originally. Kylo begins to walk off.

Color corrected TFA teaser shot of Kylo walking in the woods, crouching and lighting his saber.

A couple establishing shots of Mustafar, ideally with three TIEs somewhere in there

Main scene as Kylo slaughters people

The wayfinder says “Find me”

I LOVE the idea of using the Vader helmet shot before he meets Palpy, since it makes absolutely no sense why he would connect with it after learning that IT’S NOT VADER! 😄

I do think that DominicCobb’s two vision scenes and all his other work he’s done is quite excellent, so maybe you should find more ways to incorperate some of his scenes into this, since you haven’t really given as much detail on how you are reworking all the Rey Palpatine scenes yet! 😋


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lol, I really haven’t done any work or thinking you haven’t seen here. I’m a zombie at the helm.

I agree I’d certainly want to keep what Dominic has done for the vision. Perhaps he’ll like the idea of moving the helmet forward and adapt them. If it has to be one or the other, I’d rather use his vision.

I feel like Frodo being carried up the mountain by this point.

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At this point I’m just not for any solution that decouples the Vader helmet touching scene from Kylo forging his new helmet. I might be swayed if someone does a really great test clip though.

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I remember a while back that there was some experimentation with putting that deleted Kylo on the star destroyer bridge scene from TLJ into the opening on Mustafar and just noticed an issue with doing that is that the deleted scene takes place in Snoke’s destroyer, The Supremacy which has RED floors and was destroyed by Holdo, the destroyer in the opening of TROS is a regular one which wouldn’t have the red floors.

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Chase Adams said:

I LOVE the idea of using the Vader helmet shot before he meets Palpy, since it makes absolutely no sense why he would connect with it after learning that IT’S NOT VADER! 😄

You make a very good point there, Chase!

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Octorox said:

At this point I’m just not for any solution that decouples the Vader helmet touching scene from Kylo forging his new helmet. I might be swayed if someone does a really great test clip though.

A very good thing to keep in mind. Well if it’s one or the other I think this wins out. In the theater I read Kylo as just… testing the Vader helmet to see if Palpy’s words were true.

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Here’s the color-corrected alt take for “Rey Skywalker” from idir_hh (the alt shot is at about 20 seconds in).

https://vimeo.com/418315742
pw: fanedit

idir sent the 1080p version, which is cropped heavily, so if anyone has the 4K please let me know! Otherwise we’ll have to fake it by adding grain.

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Hal 9000 said:

Hmmm…

Crawl

Pan down to establishing shot of TIEs flying over Mustafar

Cut to interior of Star Destroyer, as Vader’s helmet emerges and Kylo places his hand on it. Maybe Vader says something vaguely relevant or just the vision that was there originally. Kylo begins to walk off.

This makes even more sense considering that he’s about to pay a visit to his grandfather’s castle. Of course he’d commune with the mask.

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poppasketti said:

Here’s the color-corrected alt take for “Rey Skywalker” from idir_hh (the alt shot is at about 20 seconds in).

https://vimeo.com/418315742
pw: fanedit

idir sent the 1080p version, which is cropped heavily, so if anyone has the 4K please let me know! Otherwise we’ll have to fake it by adding grain.

Very nice, I should let everyone know that the audio Idir used was an ambient sound-mix created by myself which I will soon be remastering and sending to him since his copy was ripped straight from YouTube! Because of this, it means that the audio in Poppasketti’s clip is unfinished as of now.

Also, Poppasketti, have you made any more progress on the face-morphed “Just Rey” clip? That is the version I am keen on obtaining! 😄


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Just noticed that, like TFA:R, TROS features a planet destruction directly following Kylo having a conversation with Han and resolving himself in a direction. Just this time it doesn’t make us feel anything.

The part of my theater experience when I could have been heard pleading, “Oh, for God’s sake!”

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poppasketti said:

Here’s the color-corrected alt take for “Rey Skywalker” from idir_hh (the alt shot is at about 20 seconds in).

https://vimeo.com/418315742
pw: fanedit

idir sent the 1080p version, which is cropped heavily, so if anyone has the 4K please let me know! Otherwise we’ll have to fake it by adding grain.

Beautiful stuff as always Poppa. It was a very simple edit for me to make and I’m sure tons of other people would have done the same thing, it’s very courteous of you all to refer to it as my idea but of course I don’t have a monopoly on it! 😄

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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I’m not sure if the shot from the TFA teaser will be useful without FX work. Kylo’s outfit in the teaser is pretty different, including the fact that he’s wearing a hood.

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Octorox said:

I’m not sure if the shot from the TFA teaser will be useful without FX work. Kylo’s outfit in the teaser is pretty different, including the fact that he’s wearing a hood.

Yeah I’ve been playing around with it and it has a similar problem as Vader’s Castle, both clips are super blue and cold; and color grading to the new Mustafaran pinkish-orange atmosphere looks very strange. Could be that I am just a noob at this though

Clips - for Editors folder -https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mfEISVdMldOKuSNjcjYO2QSggvqI_7-Y

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jarbear said:

The mirroring of the Vader Castle does make it seem like its a new shot (along with the removal of Krennic’s ship)

What can also help sell that too is if you don’t use the “whole” clip.

Here is a quick and dirty rough idea if moving the Vader helmet scene towards the beginning. As for the middle of it, I didn’t do anything to it since I wanted to show just the “kylo” footage with Vader’s helmet. Obviously the idea would be to alter all that flashback/imagery/sounds/etc. to fit more on the lines of “Vader” guiding Kylo.

Just super rough idea playing with a bit this afternoon:

https://vimeo.com/418658350
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After seeing your take on this I got inspired and tried my hand at it. I added Vader’s castle here, as well as replacing Luke from Ach To with Luke from Crait. I think it turned out relatively nicely.

https://vimeo.com/418767730
Password - Ascendant

Clips - for Editors folder -https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mfEISVdMldOKuSNjcjYO2QSggvqI_7-Y