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It’s interesting - I thought the ‘fan service’ like Chewie’s medal weakened TROS, and yet I really really love adding in the ghosts, despite it being egregious fanservice. I guess if TROS has to be nostalgia bait, it’s better if it at least does it well.

Does Anakin mouth something during his hand up close up?

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krausfadr said:

jonh this is really coming together beautifully! I did notice when Rey says “I’m all the Jedi” the ghosts are not behind her anymore.

yeah, I’m still missing shots

I think the ghost’s just standing there in the background while Rey engages Palpatine’s lightning looks a little weird, maybe you could have them with their hands raised up.

the idea was to insert a shot of the jedi raising the hand, just as king crosses the ligthsaber

in fact, the idea I had was to merge the 2 scenes, into one, without cutting the battle, and eliminating the dialogues that copy the avengers … I’m iron man

even, it had also occurred to me, put:
breathe, just breathe, from trailer 1 of the last jedi

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Honestly, even as somebody who enjoys a big chunk of the movie, I HATE the ‘I am all the jedi’ line. I think that the sentiment behind it works, but it just sounds so clunky. I’d personally at least try to remove at least ‘all the’, so that it’s just ‘I… am… Jedi’, but failing that I’d find a way to remove it entirely.

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Jonh, I’m removing the line “I am all the Jedi” from my edit. I hate that line, but others might like it so it might be best not to cut anything. But if you choose to remove it based on the presence of the Jedi behind her, I think it works.

heil Palpatine!

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omnimuffin said:

I’d personally at least try to remove at least ‘all the’, so that it’s just ‘I… am… Jedi’

I agree with you, it also hearkens back to Luke’s “I’m a Jedi, like my father before me.”

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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If you have her say “And I am a Jedi” that would be cool. But I am Jedi would sound like she doesn’t know English (or whatever English is called in a galaxy far far away).

heil Palpatine!

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I don’t have a problem with the “All the Jedi” line, but I would have preferred if she said “And I’m no one”. The other alternatives don’t really do anything for me.

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snooker said:

https://streamable.com/cekikp

This edit helps cement the idea that these people are a family now, instead of Rey being completely alone on a desert planet at the end. Her friends are there waiting for her : )

It also helps explain why BB-8 is there, he’s just a curious little friend : )

It’s so simple, but makes the ending definitely better in my opinion. Great job!

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idir_hh said:

omnimuffin said:

I’d personally at least try to remove at least ‘all the’, so that it’s just ‘I… am… Jedi’

I agree with you, it also hearkens back to Luke’s “I’m a Jedi, like my father before me.”

Yes! “I am a Jedi” it’s much better, it also implies that just by being a Jedi you have help from the others, because they are together in the Force, making clear the difference to the selfish Sith.

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RogueLeader said:

I know many people have written crawls that describe Kylo Ren on a quest to discover the origin of his former master’s power, and I was trying to think of a way that could tie Snoke, Palpatine, Vader and Mustafar together.

Right now, I’m playing around with this idea of starting the movie with Kylo touching Vader’s helmet to sort of lead him the right way to the wayfinder on the planet surface. So he touches the helmet, then he would hear the voices of either Snoke and/or Vader, and get quick flashes of Vader’s castle, the Sith wayfinder, and the Exegol temple/the fleet. The idea being that this is Palpatine speaking through Vader’s helmet, trying to lead him the way to Exegol. I also would fit the “Find me” line somewhere in here. I’m still not exactly sure what to fit in the vision but maybe others would have some ideas about this. But I think it should set up Kylo’s “want” in the film, whatever that is.

But, I thought it would be interesting to have a shot of Snoke on Mustafar, standing in front of the Sith Wayfinder (either to use it to find Exegol, or to place it there as part of Palpatine’s plans). But I was thinking it could be a quick shot of something like this.

imgur

Playing catch up on this thread, but I love this idea. I agree with fellow posters the mock up image is striking and scary. I’d definitely be a champion of this idea if it could be executed on screen convincingly.

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So I am going to write this down one more time… It got over looked probably because I rarely offer any suggestions, but I thought this idea of mine was pretty solid regarding moving the chess scene.

The idea of moving the chess scene is awesome and its wonderfully executed! I do have an idea… I think it would be great if there is a way to add a clip with R2 and 3PO watching the game. They are the only constant in the saga so they should be there in the end with their friends. Below is a scene from AOTC where 3PO tells R2, “for a mechanic you do a excessive amount of thinking.” There is enough dialog from 3PO to make him say, “For a Wookie you do a excessive amount of thinking.” Then you can do a cut to R2 doing a silly chirping noise like the link below. In that way they’re all together and all four of them are giving Chewie a hard time. Just like a bunch of siblings.

My thoughts are you see Chewie thinking then it cuts to 3PO and he says his line, then cut to R2 making a silly chirp noise basically agreeing with 3PO, then we cut to Poe and Fin, then the final scene with Rey and BB-8 Thoughts?

C3PO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Tl5FGBbB8&list=PLlrQRD4Rfv_CVrEGTWM3r9EZa3jYUXs0N&index=2

R2D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBzQQkcZZOE&list=PLs_YojqvcFd-98ggemDm1ktsVGcjxdDBW&index=9

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Tammer5 said:

So I am going to write this down one more time… It got over looked probably because I rarely offer any suggestions, but I thought this idea of mine was pretty solid regarding moving the chess scene.

The idea of moving the chess scene is awesome and its wonderfully executed! I do have an idea… I think it would be great if there is a way to add a clip with R2 and 3PO watching the game. They are the only constant in the saga so they should be there in the end with their friends. Below is a scene from AOTC where 3PO tells R2, “for a mechanic you do a excessive amount of thinking.” There is enough dialog from 3PO to make him say, “For a Wookie you do a excessive amount of thinking.” Then you can do a cut to R2 doing a silly chirping noise like the link below. In that way they’re all together and all four of them are giving Chewie a hard time. Just like a bunch of siblings.

My thoughts are you see Chewie thinking then it cuts to 3PO and he says his line, then cut to R2 making a silly chirp noise basically agreeing with 3PO, then we cut to Poe and Fin, then the finally scene with Rey and BB-8 Thoughts?

C3PO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Tl5FGBbB8&list=PLlrQRD4Rfv_CVrEGTWM3r9EZa3jYUXs0N&index=2

R2D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBzQQkcZZOE&list=PLs_YojqvcFd-98ggemDm1ktsVGcjxdDBW&index=9

I saw your post and I thought it was neat idea, anything that adds more closure to the ending is welcome in my book! Just needs someone with the chops to implement it.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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idir_hh said:

Tammer5 said:

So I am going to write this down one more time… It got over looked probably because I rarely offer any suggestions, but I thought this idea of mine was pretty solid regarding moving the chess scene.

The idea of moving the chess scene is awesome and its wonderfully executed! I do have an idea… I think it would be great if there is a way to add a clip with R2 and 3PO watching the game. They are the only constant in the saga so they should be there in the end with their friends. Below is a scene from AOTC where 3PO tells R2, “for a mechanic you do a excessive amount of thinking.” There is enough dialog from 3PO to make him say, “For a Wookie you do a excessive amount of thinking.” Then you can do a cut to R2 doing a silly chirping noise like the link below. In that way they’re all together and all four of them are giving Chewie a hard time. Just like a bunch of siblings.

My thoughts are you see Chewie thinking then it cuts to 3PO and he says his line, then cut to R2 making a silly chirp noise basically agreeing with 3PO, then we cut to Poe and Fin, then the finally scene with Rey and BB-8 Thoughts?

C3PO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Tl5FGBbB8&list=PLlrQRD4Rfv_CVrEGTWM3r9EZa3jYUXs0N&index=2

R2D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBzQQkcZZOE&list=PLs_YojqvcFd-98ggemDm1ktsVGcjxdDBW&index=9

I saw your post and I though it was neat idea, anything that adds more closure to the ending is welcome in my book! Just needs someone with the chops to implement it.

I like this idea. I think the trick would be to get footage of R2 and 3PO that works for the scene. I have a feeling that footage from A New Hope wouldn’t blend very well.

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Im a graphic designer not much of an editor, but I’ll take a stab at it since I have creative cloud and know how to use, Audition, Premier, and After Effects. I think its time I contribute something to the community instead of being a stalker.

FYI: Mace from the “The Ewok Adventures” is the best Star Wars character, possibly even of all cinematic history, that ever was created. So deep and complex! 😛

idir_hh said:

Tammer5 said:

So I am going to write this down one more time… It got over looked probably because I rarely offer any suggestions, but I thought this idea of mine was pretty solid regarding moving the chess scene.

The idea of moving the chess scene is awesome and its wonderfully executed! I do have an idea… I think it would be great if there is a way to add a clip with R2 and 3PO watching the game. They are the only constant in the saga so they should be there in the end with their friends. Below is a scene from AOTC where 3PO tells R2, “for a mechanic you do a excessive amount of thinking.” There is enough dialog from 3PO to make him say, “For a Wookie you do a excessive amount of thinking.” Then you can do a cut to R2 doing a silly chirping noise like the link below. In that way they’re all together and all four of them are giving Chewie a hard time. Just like a bunch of siblings.

My thoughts are you see Chewie thinking then it cuts to 3PO and he says his line, then cut to R2 making a silly chirp noise basically agreeing with 3PO, then we cut to Poe and Fin, then the finally scene with Rey and BB-8 Thoughts?

C3PO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Tl5FGBbB8&list=PLlrQRD4Rfv_CVrEGTWM3r9EZa3jYUXs0N&index=2

R2D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBzQQkcZZOE&list=PLs_YojqvcFd-98ggemDm1ktsVGcjxdDBW&index=9

I saw your post and I though it was neat idea, anything that adds more closure to the ending is welcome in my book! Just needs someone with the chops to implement it.

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Tammer5 said:

Im a graphic designer not much of an editor, but I’ll take a stab at it since I have creative cloud and know how to use, Audition, Premier, and After Effects. I think its time I contribute something to the community instead of being a stalker.

FYI: Mace from the “The Ewok Adventures” is the best Star Wars character, possibly even of all cinematic history, that ever was created. So deep and complex! 😛

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Tammer5 said:

So I am going to write this down one more time… It got over looked probably because I rarely offer any suggestions, but I thought this idea of mine was pretty solid regarding moving the chess scene.

The idea of moving the chess scene is awesome and its wonderfully executed! I do have an idea… I think it would be great if there is a way to add a clip with R2 and 3PO watching the game. They are the only constant in the saga so they should be there in the end with their friends. Below is a scene from AOTC where 3PO tells R2, “for a mechanic you do a excessive amount of thinking.” There is enough dialog from 3PO to make him say, “For a Wookie you do a excessive amount of thinking.” Then you can do a cut to R2 doing a silly chirping noise like the link below. In that way they’re all together and all four of them are giving Chewie a hard time. Just like a bunch of siblings.

My thoughts are you see Chewie thinking then it cuts to 3PO and he says his line, then cut to R2 making a silly chirp noise basically agreeing with 3PO, then we cut to Poe and Fin, then the finally scene with Rey and BB-8 Thoughts?

C3PO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Tl5FGBbB8&list=PLlrQRD4Rfv_CVrEGTWM3r9EZa3jYUXs0N&index=2

R2D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBzQQkcZZOE&list=PLs_YojqvcFd-98ggemDm1ktsVGcjxdDBW&index=9

I saw your post and I though it was neat idea, anything that adds more closure to the ending is welcome in my book! Just needs someone with the chops to implement it.

Your contributions will make a fine addition to our collection!

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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Tammer5 said:

So I am going to write this down one more time… It got over looked probably because I rarely offer any suggestions, but I thought this idea of mine was pretty solid regarding moving the chess scene.

The idea of moving the chess scene is awesome and its wonderfully executed! I do have an idea… I think it would be great if there is a way to add a clip with R2 and 3PO watching the game. They are the only constant in the saga so they should be there in the end with their friends. Below is a scene from AOTC where 3PO tells R2, “for a mechanic you do a excessive amount of thinking.” There is enough dialog from 3PO to make him say, “For a Wookie you do a excessive amount of thinking.” Then you can do a cut to R2 doing a silly chirping noise like the link below. In that way they’re all together and all four of them are giving Chewie a hard time. Just like a bunch of siblings.

My thoughts are you see Chewie thinking then it cuts to 3PO and he says his line, then cut to R2 making a silly chirp noise basically agreeing with 3PO, then we cut to Poe and Fin, then the final scene with Rey and BB-8 Thoughts?

C3PO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_Tl5FGBbB8&list=PLlrQRD4Rfv_CVrEGTWM3r9EZa3jYUXs0N&index=2

R2D:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBzQQkcZZOE&list=PLs_YojqvcFd-98ggemDm1ktsVGcjxdDBW&index=9

I like that idea a lot, for those two being the "longest running characters … they were pretty much left in the dust at the end (R2 got the short end of the stick the whole time pretty much) So having them would be fantastic with the reordering of the Chess scene.

Ok Jonh, when you are done with the Force Ghosts here is your next task. 😉

“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”

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It’s a bit dark, but if Chewie stayed dead and Rey actually spent time dealing with the demons…that would’ve made for a better movie overall. In fact I’m sure that was intended at some point but the executive hands rewrote it. Same with 3po…

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All I want to see is that deleted Kylo/Chewie interrogation scene.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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idir_hh said:

All I want to see is that deleted Kylo/Chewie interrogation scene.

All the deleted scenes would be a good idea.

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thebluefrog said:

It’s a bit dark, but if Chewie stayed dead and Rey actually spent time dealing with the demons…that would’ve made for a better movie overall. In fact I’m sure that was intended at some point but the executive hands rewrote it. Same with 3po…

I agree. I thought that was what was going to happen after Chewie’s “death scene” and I was excited for it. I remember thinking “holy shit, Rey kills Chewbacca, this is going to be good,” but then we learn he’s still alive a minute later and Rey doesn’t really have to deal with it. Would’ve loved to see more of her struggling with the darkness within her, and afraid to continue on, fearing that she’ll destroy the rest of her friends.

“Always in motion is the future” 🌌

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If the droids can be in the chess scene, all the better. Maybe an alternate delivery of the famous line (from the radio drama or something) could end the interior portion with, “Let the Wookiee win.”

(Eh, maybe not.)

My stance on revising fan edits.

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Depheros said:

thebluefrog said:

It’s a bit dark, but if Chewie stayed dead and Rey actually spent time dealing with the demons…that would’ve made for a better movie overall. In fact I’m sure that was intended at some point but the executive hands rewrote it. Same with 3po…

I agree. I thought that was what was going to happen after Chewie’s “death scene” and I was excited for it. I remember thinking “holy shit, Rey kills Chewbacca, this is going to be good,” but then we learn he’s still alive a minute later and Rey doesn’t really have to deal with it. Would’ve loved to see more of her struggling with the darkness within her, and afraid to continue on, fearing that she’ll destroy the rest of her friends.

Maybe there’s a way to restructure all 3 films to have Chewie’s death matter and Rey goes into a form of exile on her own. Nothing in ROS had consequences…but maybe there’s a way to mix it and TLJ into one film where things actually stick. Maybe something like ending TLJ with her alone on Luke’s island, or maybe Luke being a ghost the whole time, or maybe turn all of ROS into “the war” and have TLJ be the actual ending with Luke sacrificing himself to force-Holdo maneuver the whole fleet.

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Hal 9000 said:

If the droids can be in the chess scene, all the better. Maybe an alternate delivery of the famous line (from the radio drama or something) could end the interior portion with, “Let the Wookiee win.”

(Eh, maybe not.)

“He made a fair move, Chewbacca. If you fell for it, then that’s your fault!” might be a good Threepio line to include in there, as Chewie rages on (from the radio drama).