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DrDre
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The Rise Of Skywalker — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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6-May-2020, 3:01 AM

DominicCobb said:

DrDre said:

DominicCobb said:

Nothing will ever be worse than AOTC.

TROS is worse for me. At least AOTC had some interesting concepts underneath the horrible execution. TROS for me is the answer to the question, what if Michael Bay made a Star Wars film? It’s a quest for the McGuffin, that leads to translating the McGuffin, that leads to another McGuffin, that leads to the big bad, whose only weakness is to cross the streams like in Ghostbusters (only this trick was actually properly set up in Ghostbusters). Who knew two lightsabers would be kryptonite to a Sith Lord? It would be one thing, if the McGuffin quest was actually good, but it’s all so terribly executed, and all those fake deaths? Ugh…

There really aren’t any interesting ideas in AOTC, so it doesn’t even have that going for it. Take off the nostalgia goggles and it’s straight trash.

There is nothing about TROS that is worse than that film.

I disagree. The love story is essentially Dr Zhivago in space poorly executed, and Dr Zhivago is a classic. Add to this the idea of a democratically elected leader instigating a conflict to weaken the opposition, and manipulate his supporters into giving him more power, and you have a recipe for a great film. So, the ideas and concepts are great. They are just mostly very poorly executed. I found this video by wisecrack very informative on this subject:

Attack of the Clones, why it failed?

https://youtu.be/WA073Ddnosw

So, no AOTC isn’t straight trash. It’s just the worst offender in a trilogy that has plenty of ambition and ideas, that don’t translate well to the screen. TROS on the other hand is a zombie of a movie, that is much worse than AOTC, because it has zero ideas or concepts other than to rehash what came before in a bigger, louder, and far less coherent manner. TFA was a competent hommage to ANH, but TROS is just parody. It takes Finn’s heartfelt scream, when he sees Rey being abducted, and turns it into his defining characteristic, to the point of exasperation. Lando is reduced to a dumb chuckle every time he appears on screen as if the creators are saying: Remember this guy? He’s awesome! Fleets are conjured out of thin air by both the good, and the bad guys. Remember how we were all introduced to Yoda as this little weird alien, who teaches us about the Force, and that size matters not, and we should not be fooled by appearance, all culminating in Yoda raising the X-wing from the water, while Yoda’s theme swelled up? Apparently it’s not Yoda’s theme, and all the story themes attached to it. It’s the raise the X-wing from the water theme. It’s all just so bad!