The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released) — Page 61

Conceptually I think including Ben works fine, but yeah, that particular clip of it isn’t quite polished to the degree that I think it would need to be included.

The Falcon ending is EXCELLENT and I sincerely hope it’s what ends up going in the edit! The initial Falcon VFX still needs a bit of polish (seems a little thin when it’s closer to the camera), but the jump to hyperspace with the trail behind it is the perfect ending IMO.

“Just Rey” is coming along nicely, but it still sounds “processed” between the “just” and the “Rey.”

Very cool, poppa!

Maybe the Falcon could be darker, or more of a silhouette since it is in front of the sun. Obscuring it might help sell the effect more.

poppasketti said:

Here’s an update to the ending bits I’ve been playing with. Maybe these can work individually or be inspiration for other ideas.

https://vimeo.com/414395138
pw: fanedit

I further tweaked the “just Rey” line, and added a more pronounced “t”.

I also added an updated version of the new end shot I’ve been messing with, which removes Rey and BB-8, instead having the falcon fly off into the binary sunset.

Finally, I tacked on the YouTube clip posted a few pages back that added Ben and Anakin force ghosts. I cropped out Anakin so you could see what the idea would look like. Not crazy about the head nod, but I think the idea of adding Ben will work.

Poppa does it again!!!

As per my usual of offering ‘constructive criticism’:-

Ben’s head/face needs some work.

I know it’s a result of the source…I think it’s from an old member ‘Forceghostrecon’? work.

I would say it’s worth looking for an alternative Adam Driver headshot to roto is here.

I’ll go hunting and see what I can bring to the table.

The removal of Anakin is a definite step forward.

I think as this edit is looking to reduce some fan service elements. Anakin is surplus to requirements.

This moment is about Rey, and Rey has no relationship to Anakin so his presence here would mean nothing to her on a personal level…and especially since we are also abandoning her taking up the Skywalker name too.

I really like the idea of the Falcon departing Tatooine too.

I wasn’t sure at first. I think the final shot of the movie was so beautiful and poetic that it was a shame to lose it…but if Poppa could polish up the Falcon so that it can be totally seamless/up to his usual quality I think there’s some real merit in the change.

1. it clarifies that Rey wasn’t ever intending on staying on Tatooine

2. Gives a literal ‘riding/flying off into the (twin) sunset’ moment to close out the saga.

I really like it!

As for the ‘just Rey’ change.

Masterful!!!

I echo what another member said…that the biggest problem that removing Rey taking on the Skywalker mantle causes, is that it makes the title of the movie pretty redundant.

Don’t get me wrong the actual execution in the original is pretty piss poor in itself but it does do just about enough to justify the connection.

That’s my only gripe though, as I do like that Rey has finally stopped yearning and accepted that she has made her own way to prominence/importance in the galaxy in spite of her actual family connections/lineage but without feeling the need to rewrite her own history and take on another identity/family name.

It’s a really good arc

Yeah, I really want the “Just Rey” ending, but I agree that that kind of makes the title of the movie a non-sequitur.

Hal, of all your ST edits, this will be the one most deserving of a title change, especially if Rey Skywalker is removed (which it should be). Thoughts?

That would be nice, I suppose, but I don’t think it’s needed.

As for titles, while I like The Final Order, I would be annoyed at every ST film being a 3 word title (shit, all 3 already begin with “The” which is bad enough). Maybe Rise of the Final Order?

Balance of the Force is thematically appropriate and all, but rather bland.

Maybe something along the lines of A Destiny Divided, but not lame and not 3 words? I dunno, it’s almost 7am and I’m at the end of a 12hr workday so my brain don’t worky so good-like right meow.

Or what about cribbing a Legends title again, as with the PT?

Options from a quick Wookieepedia perusal:

• Specter of the Past
• Dark Apprentice
• Dark Empire (what? too on the nose? 😉 )
• Heir to the Empire (probably not due to the book’s status in fandom but it fits reeeallllyyyy well)

Hal 9000 said:

Yeah, I guess a title change would be in order in that event. I’ll have to think about that. I like the clip a great deal with the Falcon; I could still use that even if I didn’t change the line.

I think what’s missing to sell that line is a specific mention elsewhere of the name “Rey Palptine.”

This.

The “Just Rey” has no context if the Rey is a nobody and there is no Rey Palpatine. For Rey Nobody edits it would be best to cut out the line “Rey who?” from the old lady.

I don’t think that’s what Hal was saying. It’s a given that “Just Rey” only works if she’s Palpatine’s progeny. What Hal’s saying is he thinks “Just Rey” needs to be specifically set up by the explicit use of the name “Rey Palpatine” at some point during the movie, which I don’t think is necessary.

But yes, the “Just Rey” ending only works if she’s a Palpatine, because it’s her specifically choosing to forge her own path and not aligning herself with her actual family name (Palpatine) or her “adopted family” name (Skywalker).

In a Rey Nobody edit, you’d have to do something else with that scene, I think. If you even use it.

idir_hh said:

I personally like “Ascension to the Throne.”

Not bad, I like the use of “Throne.” Maybe Throne of the Dark Side?

The Return of the Emperor

The Return of the Phantom

The Emperor’s Throne

The Final Order

The Rise of Palpatine

Legacy of the Emperor

Legacy of the Empire

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smpearce1981 said:

The Return of the Emperor

The Return of the Phantom

The Emperor’s Throne

The Final Order

The Rise of Palpatine

Legacy of the Emperor

Legacy of the Empire

The Phantom Legacy
(sounds like a Bourne movie 😂)

I’m leaning towards Balance of the Force (BotF) because of the dyad between Rey and Kylo.

What about Rise of the Jedi? Kinda makes sense with jonh force Ghosts appearing to help Rey take down Palpatine. But could be too close Return of the Jedi and both using the same acronym (RotJ) may not work.

That came to mind too but I have premonition Disney may use it on one of their future SW movies.

The Spoils of the Empire

I’ve always tried to lean away from hokey titles and breakdown the words used:-

Very loosely speaking (and very crudely described) it’s always ‘something does something’ or ‘makes something happen’

The something (The Empire) does something (Strikes Back)

The something (The Sith) does something (gets Revenge)

The something (The Jedi) does something (Returns)

Again, very poorly described and not 100% foolproof (A New Hope) but hopefully it paints a general picture of why I would try and avoid inanimate things from doing positive action.

Poor use of correct English termology is hampering my ability to sell my point here 😃

stevepaynter said:

I’m leaning towards Balance of the Force (BotF) because of the dyad between Rey and Kylo.

What about Rise of the Jedi? Kinda makes sense with jonh force Ghosts appearing to help Rey take down Palpatine. But could be too close Return of the Jedi and both using the same acronym (RotJ) may not work.

Both VERY good!

Chase Adams said:

My favourite is “Balance of the Force”

Here’s an idea!

Instead of “Heir to the Empire”
How about “Heir to the Emperor”

‘Heir of the Emperor’ or bust 😃