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The Original Trilogy Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 13

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My cutlist would go something like this:

  • get rid of the first jealous Han scene, then trim the second one (“He wasn’t I can feel it” Han looks confused “He’s my brother.”)
  • dump a bunch of 3PO’s “captain obvious” lines
  • tone down Ewok cutesiness
  • give Boba Fett a better death scene, or just cut/roto him out of the movie
  • cut the music number - we go straight from the dungeon to the reveal of Boushh and Chewie
  • the stuff SSWR suggested with the Endor arrival
  • beakless Sarlacc (the beak just screams '90s CGI)
  • maybe restore the lightsaber-building deleted scene
  • do some reorganizing of the battle scenes
  • end at the pyre scene, with Luke seeing Anakin’s spirit (mixing ROTS and other Hayden roles for the desired footage - or Shaw, really depends on TROS edits)

The most important cut for me, IMO:

  • get rid of the crying Rancor keeper - I’ve hated it since I first watched the movie and would be happy to see it gone
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I wonder if you could get rid of the Second Death Star to make the Endor shield generator protecting Coruscant? You could also take some inspiration from the first draft of Return of the Jedi to pull that off.

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That’s always been my dream edit idea.

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Really anything that makes there be only one Death Star successfully is my dream edit.

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This is exactly what I was thinking about doing as well. I think about how in A New Hope, Luke says, “Well, if there’s a bright center of the universe, you’re on the planet that it’s farthest from.” So it would be fitting if the climax of Luke’s story takes place on what is essentially the bright center of their universe.

Recently I was thinking about what would be the most appropriate way to depict this city planet (whether it be Coruscant, Had Abbadon, etc.)

I think if we were to use shots of Coruscant from the prequels, it would be better to exclusively use shots from The Phantom Menace, since they feel a little more dated than its depiction in Episodes II and III, and probably would feel more appropriate alongside ROTJ’s 80s-era effects.

Alternatively, it might not be everyone’s cup of tea, but if you really wanted it to feel different, I think would be interesting to experiment using shots of the cityscape from Bladerunner. I mean, it came out only a year before ROTJ, so its special effects are more consistent with ROTJ than TPM is. Also, the city from Bladerunner feels distinctly dystopian, whereas the prequel-era Coruscant feels very utopian. I think the dystopian appearance could more fitting for the throne world for the Emperor.

For the Emperor’s palace, you could either use shots of the Jedi Temple if you went with canon Coruscant. Or, if you used Bladerunner footage, the tyrell building could be used for the Emperor’s palace.

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RogueLeader said:

I think would be interesting to experiment using shots of the cityscape from Bladerunner.

It helps that a lot of Bladerunner effects shots are copy-pasted into the prequels for Coruscant.

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RogueLeader said:

For the Emperor’s palace, you could either use shots of the Jedi Temple if you went with canon Coruscant. Or, if you used Bladerunner footage, the tyrell building could be used for the Emperor’s palace.

I like the idea of using the jedi temple as Palpatines palace, using a few throw away shots of the cityscape from blade runner in a seamless way would be pretty cool, although as a big Blade runner fan I think using the Tyrell building would be kinda distracting.

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That’s kind of why I really don’t like using any music cues, shots, or anything from other movies whenever it’s brought up. That’s the Tyrell Building, that’s a Wonder Woman theme, etc.

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Yeah, using Blade Runner stock footage (that’s been heavily doctored to hide the source) would be excellent! Shying away from the more recognizable buildings, while also incorporating the Jedi Temple (either stock footage or a model that’s been doctored a bit) and other PT places would be advisable. If not, models or digital matte paintings in the style of McQuarrie’s art for Had Abbadon would help.

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Yeah, true, although if we’re removing the Second Death Star from the film, we’re already deviating from canon, since it later appears in TROS.

I think I would only use non-Star Wars footage if this version of Return of the Jedi was meant to be the last Star Wars film. Hell, I have a bit of free time. I don’t think model making isn’t out of the question for me. Maybe using similar techniques that they used to make the bladerunner city footage.

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Imperial Palace

I decided to try my hand in making some RotJ-era Coruscant stuff.

This shot would be part of a scene that combines dialogue from ‘Palpatine’s Arrival’ and footage from the “What of the reports of the rebel fleet massing near Sullust?” scenes.

The throne room, in this hypothetical edit, would be at the top of the former Jedi Temple, so new effects would need to be generated to show what’s outside the windows.

An idea I had would be that the area around the palace would be caught in a storm for the entire movie until there’s a turn in the tide of battle, where the sun starts shining on the characters in the throne room.

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That looks pretty neat, do you think it would be possible to composite in or rotoscope in actual ship models from the films? Just to give it that practical look.

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I would have to build the shots around those original model shots, but yes that is possible.

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Nice, I guess it would be more time consuming, but then again you might get better results.

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EddieDean said:

Bingowings said:

Palestine turns the crystal sacred to the Jedi into super weapon. Luke restores it.

Damn Disney always having to push a political agenda! 😉

Damn you auto correct 😁

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When it comes to eliminating the Second Death Star, I think simply having the first one survive is by far the better option. It’s much more feasible and strays a lot less from canon. Instead of vaporizing instantly in ANH, it shatters into chunks. In RotJ, it would simply be rebuilt in a similar fashion to the Skywalker Saber or Kylo’s mask in TRoS.

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Yes, but that depends on if the edit is concerned with what is canon or not.

If it is meant to fit within the nine-film canon, then I agree. That very idea was the subject of my very first post on this site. It would require you changing the explosion in ANH, and to make some slight crawl and dialogue changes, at the very least.

But, speaking for myself, I think it would also be cool to make a fan edit of Return of the Jedi that asks the question, “What if there were only three Star Wars ever?” With that in mind, I would just like to try to make interesting changes that gave the trilogy a more somber and bittersweet ending, regardless of canon.

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I’d certainly swing towards the DS2 being a half-repaired DS1. I’d have the original DS1’s destruction modified to create chunks which could feasibly be repaired into something approaching the DS2, then explain an attempt to repair it in ROTJ’s crawl.

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Not that I’d want to actually put it into a ‘desert island’ version of ROTJ, but I’d be interested in seeing a DSII explosion that could even potentially allow for its wreckage as seen in TROS.

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Hal 9000 said:

Not that I’d want to actually put it into a ‘desert island’ version of ROTJ, but I’d be interested in seeing a DSII explosion that could even potentially allow for its wreckage as seen in TROS.

Yeah, and the fleet retreating idea. Now that things follow the OT, it’s OK that we add a little connective tissue.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

When it comes to eliminating the Second Death Star, I think simply having the first one survive is by far the better option. It’s much more feasible and strays a lot less from canon. Instead of vaporizing instantly in ANH, it shatters into chunks. In RotJ, it would simply be rebuilt in a similar fashion to the Skywalker Saber or Kylo’s mask in TRoS.

The idea I was running on with my in-limbo edit was that in the Battle of Hoth, there would be a failed Trench Run, using footage from ANH with Gold Leader’s failed trench run. This would damage the Death Star, but not destroy it. They might think in RotJ it’s down for a while, but turns out that it wasn’t!

This was also half so that I wouldn’t have to replace every shot of the Death Star in RotJ, something I might be able to do now, but I don’t think I could have pulled it off in 2017 when I first had the idea of 2018 when I actually started on it.

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