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oojason
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Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker Redux Ideas thread
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13-Apr-2020, 7:37 AM

tobiwan1984 said:

StarkillerAG said:

tobiwan1984 said:

  • Luke needs to survive Episode VIII.

I actually would like this, for the same reason I’d like Ben to survive. I think Luke deserves more time to redeem himself, rather than just die from over-exertion after doing one good thing. This isn’t really feasible through editing though.

  • Rey needs to be Luke’s lost daugther, that was hinted at in TFA and I still feel Kasdan and Abrams were going that way until VIII, Johnson and Kennedy derailed everything.

I absolutely hate this idea, for two reasons:

  1. Rey is more interesting as a nobody. If Rey just turned out to be another Skywalker, it would make the sequel trilogy seem boring and cliche. It’s much more ironic for a complete nobody to be the hero this time.
  2. There is zero evidence that JJ originally planned for Rey to be a Skywalker. All evidence, even before the release of TLJ, points to Rey being a nobody from the start. Terrio was the one who derailed it with his stupid Rey Palpatine reveal.

Because of that, I think Rey Nobody is the only way to go for a fan edit of the sequel trilogy. It’s by far the most interesting and thematically coherent option.

Her being a nobody is just pushing the identity politics agenda of Kennedy…

tobiwan1984 said:

DominicCobb said:

NFBisms said:

Even if you believe Star Wars is just supposed to be about the Skywalkers, there’s nothing wrong with having the last trilogy be about the influence of that family and their story. That’s still ostensibly about them.

Rey Nobody, a girl who becomes a hero from being inspired by their legend, is a meaningful way to cap off their legacy. It’s a lot better than a daughter inheriting her father’s responsibility and just seeing it through. (also why Kylo/Ben not seeing his through was interesting!)

Exactly.

To me it still is too much identity politics involved instead of a solid character arc…

…because they or some people at least figured out that they messed up and even the identity politics are not working at all.

tobiwan1984 said:

StarkillerAG said:

DominicCobb said:

StarkillerAG said:

DominicCobb said:

Get over it.

We’re in a fan edit thread. Not getting over things is the only way we can fix them. I think he should be allowed to criticize. Whether his criticisms are valid is another question, but you shouldn’t just try to shut him up like this.

In fairness, it’s not just that his criticisms are bad, but there’s no way to accomplish what he wants. In which case my suggestion is legitimately the best thing he can do.

You’re probably right. His criticisms do belong more in the rewrite thread.

And as long as Kennedy is the president of Lucasfilm we will never see an alternate edit or anything even though it might or might not exist!

Honestly, I think I can say whatever I want to say as long as I don’t offend anyone what I’m not interested in in any way of course.

tobiwan1984 - you have a PM.

This is not the place for such conversations - as has been stated on several occasions throughout the thread - and also in the OP.

There are other threads in other sections of the site for those that wish to have such discussions.