I've just finished Re-editing Episodes I-III, now what? (Released) — Page 3

Hi Ryan,

Thanks for sharing your edits!

I checked out your vimeo clips, and the Episode I clip shows a lot of promise. Have you considered re-dubbing all the Gungans in English? Since they play such a large role in the movie, I'd imagine we end up with a lot of subtitles in your edit. On some level, I think TPM needs to stay kid-friendly.

Your Episode III clip retains a little too much Lucas-style humor for my tastes. And all the deleted scenes of them running around the ship just drags the sequence out too much. The part where they discuss what the beeps mean is especially painful.

Just my 2 cents. It sounds like you're done, so I'm not sure how helpful my feedback will be anyway.

Re Erikstormtrooper,

Thx for the interesting comments mate.  In answer to your points:

I did a test where I tried dubbing Jar-Jar and I didn't like it. Takes a better voice actor than me I guess.

Yes it does make for quite a few subtitles but it did give me the freedom to control the motivation and character of the Gungans.  If you hate subtitles (Or if you speak the language that I've dubbed the Gungans in) you won't fully enjoy my edit.  But it's a damn sight less annoying than Ahmed best's bizarre Minstrel performance.

And on a side note the Gungans are not essential to the film in any way.  I have an early draft edit where I cut them out completley.  It streamlines things but for me 1.5hrs does not a worthy SW film make.

My opening is actually 30 seconds shorter by the time they land.  I felt all the unfunny R2 stuff really dragged so I swapped it for Anakin and Obi banter which did really amuse me.

Maybe it's my tastes but the beeps clip had me laughing out loud when I first saw it on the Blu-Ray (Then shouting at the screen "Why was this cut out"). Ewan's moustache twirling is comedy gold also.  I think all those moments are essential to showing the love and comradery between our two heros.

Obviously if I'd written the story for the PT myself I wouldn't have wasted the first 4 hrs keeping Anakin and Obi-Wan on seperate sides of the Planet/Entire galaxy.  But since that is the case, the opening act of ROTS is the only place that I can build that relationship... before it implodes in the final act.

The thing I regret most that I could never fix in my cuts was Ewan's near-total absence from episode I.  If there had been deleted scenes of him reading the paper or doing the accounts I would have put it back in lol! As brilliant as Liam Neeson is, his character should have been Obi-Wan and we'd all be alot happier.

Ryan

Possibly controversial, but check out...

at:

http://vimeo.com/64919126

Think this ties it all up nicely in a more subtle way than the Blu-Ray.

Let me know what you think.

Adde...

to vimeo over at:

http://vimeo.com/64936547

Also just up on vimeo...

http://vimeo.com/64941896

This version keeps the vader revealbut does it better.

Hi X-Wing Mechanic,

You're the first person to let me know that you've watched it (No prizes I'm afraid).

Glad to hear you enjoyed it! I momentarely paused preparing distribution on Episode I: Reborn to type this.

I take it you mean the "Red" scene in Palp's office? That scene is actually longer and was reconstructed from the 2nd half that was already in ROTS and a 95% finished animatic of the first half released on the Blu-Rays.  You'll see that the first half is lower resolution and they've only done a partialy successful matte around Anakin and Palpatine as they stand against the window.  I added some evil music to the first half that I was very pleased with.  I removed a few lines in the middle of the scene that Lucas re-recorded later on in pickups and used in the 'Anakin realises Palp is a sith" scene.

I thought the first half of this scene has loads of good dialogue where Palpatine is winding Anakin up so when he looses his temper in the next Jedi council scene it seems more natural.

Check out: http://vimeo.com/user6280236/videos

I've uploaded an early cut of the ROTS finale where Vader is revealed (But he doesn't stop around like Boris Karloff and shout NOOOOOOO!!, you'll find interesting.

Ryan

X-Wing Mechanic,

Yes it's one of the deleted extras on the Blu-Ray.  Would've loved if Lucas had put all the deleted material on the Blu-Ray.  I would estimate there is another 30 mins + deleted dialogue sequences from each PT film that he hasn't released.  Alot of the worst creeky dialogue in the original cuts of the films was shot in isolation during Lucas' infamous post production pickup periods.  These pickups where not additional shots they were filmed to replace sequences shot during principle photography.  The actors were flown back in for one day and realed through line after line of new dialogue on a sterile green screen stage with no sets or other actors to help bring the perforamnce to life. Whether we'll ever see the original on set dialogue sequences, who knows.

Often if an actor is delivering an awful reading of a terrible line in the PT you'll notice they're wearing a wig/false-beard or they've dramaticaly lost/put-on weight = pickup!

If you get your cut uploaded let me know.  Would like to see it.

Ryan