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OutboundFlight
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Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker Redux Ideas thread
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11-Apr-2020, 9:12 PM

tobiwan1984 said:

StarkillerAG said:

tobiwan1984 said:

  • Luke needs to survive Episode VIII.

I actually would like this, for the same reason I’d like Ben to survive. I think Luke deserves more time to redeem himself, rather than just die from over-exertion after doing one good thing. This isn’t really feasible through editing though.

  • Rey needs to be Luke’s lost daugther, that was hinted at in TFA and I still feel Kasdan and Abrams were going that way until VIII, Johnson and Kennedy derailed everything.

I absolutely hate this idea, for two reasons:

  1. Rey is more interesting as a nobody. If Rey just turned out to be another Skywalker, it would make the sequel trilogy seem boring and cliche. It’s much more ironic for a complete nobody to be the hero this time.
  2. There is zero evidence that JJ originally planned for Rey to be a Skywalker. All evidence, even before the release of TLJ, points to Rey being a nobody from the start. Terrio was the one who derailed it with his stupid Rey Palpatine reveal.

Because of that, I think Rey Nobody is the only way to go for a fan edit of the sequel trilogy. It’s by far the most interesting and thematically coherent option.

Luke needs to survive, done by Ivan Ortega in his edit, working more or less well. Rey needs to be the lost daughter, we just need a good reason why and need to show it. The ending of IX needs to be bigger, with force ghosts and with Rey realizing her place in all of this as the last Skywalker to finally end Palpatine and avenge her father and restore the balance once and for all. Her being a nobody is just pushing the identity politics agenda of Kennedy and Rey being a Palpatine might sound interesting, but it just makes the whole story of Anakin an Luke useless.

Thanks for the feedback of course, it is noted and respected!

Okay, so while I do actually agree with you on Rey Nobody being lame, keep in mind Ivan’s “plan” isn’t feasible. Yes Luke can reasonably survive TLJ, but he can’t reasonably be involved in TROS. Maybe it would be possible to insert him instead of Leia on Aljon Koss and say a few lines in a voiceover. But him doing anything other than standing on Aljon isn’t workable.

All due respect Starkiller, but I found it cringe-inducingly obvious that TFA was setting up Rey as an important person. Evidence -

  1. When BB8 says his identity is a secret, Rey says “me too”. Supposing that’s sarcasm, there’s no need to say that and confuse the audience.
  2. When Kylo is told a girl helped BB8, he asks “what girl?” as if there’s a girl on Jakku that is important. I guess he was just curious?
  3. Maz asks Han, “who’s the girl”. Why would they cut on this when all Han says is “idk just some person lol”.
  4. Kylo and Snoke both seem confused in TFA as to how Rey is so powerful, suggesting lineage.

So for me personally, I’d have been fine with Rey Nobody had RJ directed TFA. My problem doesn’t have to do with the heroes’ journey, even though I can understand why that’s an issue for some folks. My problem comes from Rey Nobody conflicting so much with TFA, where Rey Palpatine actually fits into the puzzle quite smoothly.