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Episode IX: A New Order (Alpha version released) — Page 2

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Beautiful color correction. Do you plan on releasing a LUT for the unedited movie?

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Excuse me… ehm… “LUT”? What do you mean?

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I’m not a big color correction boy, so I don’t know the details of it, but it’s basically a file with the details of the color correction. So other people can use the color corrected video without having to download a huge video file.

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Oh, I see… I didn’t understand what you meant (not native speaker here).
Well, first things first. I don’t think I will be able to make all the “Rey killed her parents” stuff. Even if the idea can be delivered through flashbacks, the whole plot revolves around Ochi and his damned ship, and there’s not enough dialogue to make all of this flow. Even with Rey herself… we don’t have enough material to show her reaction to this supposed truth, so it wouldn’t fit with her character development.

I think I can make an edit that is the exact same movie but with my color correction, and release it like that. Later I’ll make my own complete edit.

But not during these days. I’m kinda sick these days, and being in Northern Italy I’m getting a little bit worried, eh eh 😄

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Episode IV - THE HEIR OF SKYWALKER. Episode VI - RETURN OF THE JEDI RENEWED. DYAD IN THE FORCE (3-into-1 sequels).
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Stai attento !

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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IlFanEditore said:

The “Rey killing her parents” will never be perfect, unless someone makes totally new shots.
Here’s my test. I’m not satisfied, but I hope it can be useful as a concept for others.

I’ll keep working on this.
The problem is: is it that clear the Occhi’s ship is the same one Rey blew up? How can this inconsistency be fixed?

https://vimeo.com/400251919
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The white vignette around the flashbacks are a little distracting. If you still wanted to use this idea maybe make it more similar to the flashes she has after stabbing the training ball, where it’s mostly unaltered shots with more audio-heavy editing. Perhaps even reuse the reverb effect of Luke saying “you killed them” from ESB, that way it’s used over the flashes of Kylo killing his father in addition to Rey killing her parents for more parallels.

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Thank you both, friends 😉
Good aspect is that I have a lot of free time, haha

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Lesser said:

IlFanEditore said:

The “Rey killing her parents” will never be perfect, unless someone makes totally new shots.
Here’s my test. I’m not satisfied, but I hope it can be useful as a concept for others.

I’ll keep working on this.
The problem is: is it that clear the Occhi’s ship is the same one Rey blew up? How can this inconsistency be fixed?

https://vimeo.com/400251919
pw: fanedit

The white vignette around the flashbacks are a little distracting. If you still wanted to use this idea maybe make it more similar to the flashes she has after stabbing the training ball, where it’s mostly unaltered shots with more audio-heavy editing. Perhaps even reuse the reverb effect of Luke saying “you killed them” from ESB, that way it’s used over the flashes of Kylo killing his father in addition to Rey killing her parents for more parallels.

That’s a neat idea. To address the issue of Rey having little reaction to this reveal throughout the film, I think there are sufficient hints sprinkled throughout the film that she knows more about herself than she reveals, for example " there’s so much I want to tell you " - to Leia, “that power came from me…Finn there are things you don’t know” later on after the she escapes Kijimmi she says " he killed my mother…and my father" This could easily be changed to “I killed my mother and father”, bare in mind that I think this plot point would be more effective if we scrap the whole “your parents sold you to protect you”, they should remain scumbags to at least give her a reason for her action, it’s also a nice parallel with Kylo’s childhood where his parents kinda abandoned him as well.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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Definitely Rey’s parents should’ve just sold her for their own selfish reasons I think. Han and Leia abandoned Ben because they thought it was best for him, while Rey’s parents abandoned her to benefit themselves. Those are really good - I think easily fixable - lines for Rey to have.

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Both killed their parents > Dyad > both choose the light in the end.

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idir_hh said:

Lesser said:

IlFanEditore said:

The “Rey killing her parents” will never be perfect, unless someone makes totally new shots.
Here’s my test. I’m not satisfied, but I hope it can be useful as a concept for others.

I’ll keep working on this.
The problem is: is it that clear the Occhi’s ship is the same one Rey blew up? How can this inconsistency be fixed?

https://vimeo.com/400251919
pw: fanedit

The white vignette around the flashbacks are a little distracting. If you still wanted to use this idea maybe make it more similar to the flashes she has after stabbing the training ball, where it’s mostly unaltered shots with more audio-heavy editing. Perhaps even reuse the reverb effect of Luke saying “you killed them” from ESB, that way it’s used over the flashes of Kylo killing his father in addition to Rey killing her parents for more parallels.

That’s a neat idea. To address the issue of Rey having little reaction to this reveal throughout the film, I think there are sufficient hints sprinkled throughout the film that she knows more about herself than she reveals, for example " there’s so much I want to tell you " - to Leia, “that power came from me…Finn there are things you don’t know” later on after the she escapes Kijimmi she says " he killed my mother…and my father" This could easily be changed to “I killed my mother and father”, bare in mind that I think this plot point would be more effective if we scrap the whole “your parents sold you to protect you”, they should remain scumbags to at least give her a reason for her action, it’s also a nice parallel with Kylo’s childhood where his parents kinda abandoned him as well.

That is PRECISELY what I did in the last days. In the Falcon Rey says “I killed my mother and father”. And just after they escape Pasaana she also tells Finn that she had a vision. In the original it refers to her Dyad-induced flashes, but if we cut that it sounds like she is telling him about “herself destroying the ship” flashback.
The problem with all of this is: Why does she want to kill Palpatine if not for revenge? How do Ochi and his ship fit into all of this? And how can we make Rey react to the revelation?

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Episode IV - THE HEIR OF SKYWALKER. Episode VI - RETURN OF THE JEDI RENEWED. DYAD IN THE FORCE (3-into-1 sequels).
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You’re right, the Palpatine and Ochi angle is a hard nut to crack, here’s what I propose:
Cut any connection between ochi and her parents, imply that his ship triggers her memories because its a similar model to the ship that Rey’s parents were on (the TFA vision looks slightly different anyway to the TROS model) From the start of the film she is tormented by visions of the Sith throne, flashbacks on Passana could be used in a way that only hints at Rey killing her parents, leaving the full reveal till Kijimmi, later in Kylo’s quarters you can change the dialogue to him saying"I pushed you in the desert because I needed to see it, I needed you to see it, What you did… Rey’s reactions to Kylo’s dialogue works perfectly as a reaction to the reveal, cut all the stuff about ochi killing her parents. As if that wasn’t enough, Kylo tells Rey that Palpatine has been waiting for them all this time, that he sensed their darkness since they were children, and declares that she is indeed a palpatine, that Kylo and Rey are a Dyad and that they will inherit the dark throne. (for this to work, Palpatine’s plan from the start should be to bring Rey, not kill her, so instead of “kill the girl” his dialogue to Kylo would change to “find the girl” “you will rule the Galaxy as Emperor and empress”)

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Making her backstory super dark along with her dark actions in the film paves an inevitable path to taking up the throne, which of course raises the tension and makes her reunion with Ben as a Lightside Dyad instead of a darkside one all the more triumphant.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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You’ve convinced me, lol. I’ll try all of this ASAP 😄

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Opening test

https://vimeo.com/401688174
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What about this? Start with Rey, then move to Kylo on Mustafar/Exegol. Again, no Finn&Poe mission.

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Honestly there are so many ways to start this film its crazy, If you were to go this route I think it would be nice to do it akin to the original script.
I did a quick mockup of what it could look like: https://vimeo.com/401751674

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Small update.
Right now I’m working both on this one and my ROTJ V2, with the Disney+ version (1080p) as a base.

At this moment, the movie goes like this:
-Same opening with Kylo on Mustafar and then Exegol, but Palpatine is not mentioned in the crawl. I’m still not sure about all of this. I’ve read some interesting ideas. I don’t remember if it was Snooker or someone else who came up with the idea of placing Palpatine’s reveal for later, and simply make the Resistance & First Order interested in Exegol only because of the Sith fleet. That’s cool.
-Anyway… Finn and Poe with the Falcon are gone.
-On Pasaana Rey remembers that she killed her parents with Force Lightning. She tells that to Fiin (“I… I had a vision”. In the original she is talking about the Throne of the Sith, but in my edit it cuts to the following scene, so that we realize that she told him about the flashback on Jakku).
-Ochi and the Dagger are just a plot instrument to make the characters find the Wayfinder. Rey does not hear voices when she touches the dagger, and Ochi is just a random guy.
-During the Force connections with Kylo we still hear that all happened because of Palpatine. He wanted to find Rey, so her parents left her on Jakku to protect her. But while they were leaving, she killed them. I removed any mention of Palpatine wanting to kill Rey.
-Rey is still a Palpatine.
-All the chat about Finn wanting to tell something to Rey is gone.
-On Kijimi, I reversed 3PO’s voice and added subtitles. He clearly says that the Wayfinder is in the Throne Room. So there’s no need for the ridiculous “Oh, the Dagger is shaped like the Death Star!111!1!!!”.

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Slightly changed color. Less yellow.

Reduced blue tonality.



Changed blue color to be more in line with TFA.

Reduced light blue tonality.

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Those look excellent! I might not go so gray/monotone on the Star Destroyer interiors, but that’s my only note.

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ChainsawAsh said:

Those look excellent! I might not go so gray/monotone on the Star Destroyer interiors, but that’s my only note.

Considering that even in TFA there was some blue in Starkiller base’s corridors, I will probably change it 😉

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Updated post description and added complete changelist
I suggest you take a look.

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Loving the changes man, when do you think you could pump out a workprint?

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Released in a couple of weeks I hope 😉
But again, I’m not that satisfied. I just want to have this released as a V1 (hoping that others will use some of these rough ideas) and then finish ROTJ 😉

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