There is no need to bow out eiyosus, as these things should be discussed.

Many people are going to worried about their elderly relatives, friends and neighbours; visiting them, spending time with them, and helping them out would be the usual thing to do in similar situations… yet unfortunately in this one it could likely prove a serious issue in itself.

There is a lack of care for the elderly and vulnerable in general everyday life; we worry about them, it is only natural to do so, and given the circumstances of this virus in particular, it is considerably more frustrating and worrying that we cannot help them as we previously would.

Good on you for helping them out and sending the packages.

Though, when you say ‘we’ll be fine’ and ‘This is some real first world problems crap’ - for many people this will not be the case; including elderly relatives, friends and neighbours - as well as those with underlying medical conditions or compromised immune systems etc.

And also for the 7500+ people who have already lost their lives; their families and loved ones. The 6500+ in ‘serious/critical’ condition, the 95,000 in ‘mild’ condition, and the many many people out there who may have it and have not yet even been tested, along with the chances of it spreading further.

Not to mention those who’ve lost their jobs, or are self-employed, or have little-to-no money or savings. If you’re in France, Spain and Italy there is some financial help out there. Other countries, including the UK, there is next to fuck all - and much of the advice we are getting from our ‘leaders’ is contradictory from one day to the next, and insufficient at best.

Plus the selfish idiots who have ensured there is next to nothing on the shelves in certain areas as regards to certain foods and grocery-wise (toilet roll, handwash and tinned goods, especially). And many stores were seemingly unwilling to prevent them emptying the shelves.