That’s another reason I favor just starting the film with Kylo having it and mentioning in the crawl that he discovered it because Smoke somehow.
I like that too, I kind of don’t want the Mustafar thing. Heck, you can even take out the whole “Vader” section of it. It can be change Kylo found it in Snokes stuff or something. Whichever, in my mind I’d like to not have the movie start with it, it was more confusing than anything.
“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”
Exactly. Just end the crawl with something like:
Supreme Leader KYLO REN, led by a Sith artifact hidden away by Snoke, races deep into the Unknown Regions of the galaxy in search of his former master’s secrets…
And then pan down to Kylo in his TIE following the wayfinder to Exegol.
Of course, you’d also remove any mention of Palpatine in the rest of the crawl and have our first inkling of him be when Kylo actually meets him on Exegol.
I like the opening. We see that he has to find a thing to get him to Palpatine, no dialogue, quick. I don’t see myself removing it, since there’s no alternative scene or anything to use in its place.
I don’t think you need to replace it with anything because it serves no purpose once you replace “Palpatine lives” with “Kylo found a thing” in the crawl.
I also really just don’t like the sequence as it currently exists in the film (which is unfixable without the deleted footage), and I feel it contributes immensely to the hectic feeling of the first act. Jumping to too many locations right off the rip is just so whiplash-y. Cutting one of those locations out would be a huge benefit IMO.
It sets up the necessity of using the wayfinder and the nebula of insanity that serves as a barrier.
But all of that is still kept with what I propose…
Maybe I’ve been wording it wrong, but I’m not proposing that the crawl ends and Kylo is already on Exegol, I’m saying the crawl ends and you pan down to see Kylo using the Wayfinder (already in his possession) to navigate to Exegol. You’d just be excising the parts actually on Mustafar.
Ah, I see. I’m sorry, I haven’t been in a place to pay quality attention when I check in.
It’s cool, I’ve been commenting during brief breaks at work so I’m not surprised I wasn’t getting my point across clearly. 😃
Hal, did you scrap the idea of the TFA/TLJ duology? without the deleted scenes the duology edit sounds more interesting.
Not scrapped, but not committed either. If I had free time I probably would.
Here’s another take on a crawl:
Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER
The iron grip of the FIRST ORDER has spread to the farthest reaches of the galaxy. To suffocate the spark of rebellion, all communication between neighboring systems has been silenced.
As Rey, sole heir to the Jedi, continues her training under the ailing General Leia Organa, the fledging Resistance gathers intel to forge a path to freedom.
Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren searches relentlessly for his grandfather’s SITH WAYFINDER, to unlock the secrets of his former master’s power…
Not scrapped, but not committed either. If I had free time I probably would.
Here’s another take on a crawl:
Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKERThe iron grip of the FIRST ORDER has spread to the farthest reaches of the galaxy. To suffocate the spark of rebellion, all communication between neighboring systems has been silenced.
As Rey, sole heir to the Jedi, continues her training under the ailing General Leia Organa, the fledging Resistance gathers intel to forge a path to freedom.
Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren searches relentlessly for his grandfather’s SITH WAYFINDER, to unlock the secrets of his former master’s power…
Love it, although I do prefer the idea of starting the film with Kylo navigating his way through the nebula.
"Meanwhile Supreme Leader Kylo Ren after a galaxy wide conquest has finally obtained his grandfathers SITH WAYFINDER, the key that will forge the path to the source of his former Master’s power, beyond the unknown regions of space…
Peace is a lie
There is only passion…
Not scrapped, but not committed either. If I had free time I probably would.
Here’s another take on a crawl:
Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKERThe iron grip of the FIRST ORDER has spread to the farthest reaches of the galaxy. To suffocate the spark of rebellion, all communication between neighboring systems has been silenced.
As Rey, sole heir to the Jedi, continues her training under the ailing General Leia Organa, the fledging Resistance gathers intel to forge a path to freedom.
Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren searches relentlessly for his grandfather’s SITH WAYFINDER, to unlock the secrets of his former master’s power…
Interesting, incorporating some DOTF. But I wonder if one would suspect a direct follow up to the ‘all communication has been cut off’ set up.
I keep reading “communication” in Nute Gunray’s voice.
Sio Bibble for me.
“The search for exogol” really ruined the tension in the film for me and made it quite boring to watch since we already saw what they were searching for at the very beginning- Exogol, palpatines and his fleet- so there was no room left for tension, surprise and mystery.
I would propose somewhat of a radical reconstruction of the film where Rey and Kylo are both racing to find the wayfinders with Kylo beating her to the chase and finding exogol before the deathstar sequence(only possible in a Rey nobody edit to avoid the revelations on kijjimi).
Set up the stakes in the opening with a montage of palpatine’s broadcast, use the cut kylo bridge scene from TLJ https://youtu.be/tOk-ado_fLA perhaps with the destroyer hovering above coruscant/night ala what Snooker did https://i.imgur.com/OasRBRj.png, intercut with planets around the galaxy hearing the transmition https://youtu.be/QSI6Cn6GkK0 https://youtu.be/Slsj4YeYaYQ, the resistance would soon find out from Boolio that Kylo has begun the search for a Sith Wayfinder to get to exogol, and so the race would begin.
Peace is a lie
There is only passion…
Something about communication being cut off would maybe help bridge Poe’s sense of despair and the enormous civilian fleet that musters once given the chance. But something else to serve that purpose could be put in its place.
I would propose somewhat of a radical reconstruction of the film where Rey and Kylo are both racing to find the wayfinders with Kylo beating her to the chase and finding exogol before the deathstar sequence(only possible in a Rey nobody edit to avoid the revelations on kijjimi).
Hell yeah. So on board for this.
It might not be possible, but it’s definitely worth attempting.
Another nice idea. I was planning on having some of the Exegol scenes moved later but in flashback. But having a race of both sides to Exegol is interesting. You can still have some kind of Kijimi revelations because Kylo is in communication with Palpatine. He just hasn’t physically been to Exegol to man and retrieve the fleet.
heil Palpatine!
Another nice idea. I was planning on having some of the Exegol scenes moved later but in flashback. But having a race of both sides to Exegol is interesting. You can still have some kind of Kijimi revelations because Kylo is in communication with Palpatine. He just hasn’t physically been to Exegol to man and retrieve the fleet.
By kijimi revelations I meant Kylo revealing that Rey is a palpatine, which wouldn’t work since in this restructure he has yet to find Palpatine.
Alternatively If you wanted to go the Rey Palpatine route you can have Kylo find Exogol before he appears on Kijimi.
Peace is a lie
There is only passion…
I wonder if they didn’t have Leia say “always” because they decided for her body to vanish subsequent to that moment.
I wonder if it’d be at all doable or even a good idea to have her vanish right after Ben’s resolution after talking with Han.
Sounds like a pretty nice idea to me, that might be the reason why you didn’t hear her speak to Rey as the Jedi spoke back to her.
The name’s Lawson. Noah Lawson.
I definitely want to at least put out a version of this that won’t change Rey’s Palpatine lineage, even if I do end up doing so. Because I will take a heavy ‘project management’ approach to best leverage my extremely limited time and Dominic already has efforts in his pipeline to tackle that aspect of things, I will start off focusing on other areas.
I figure most will. You can always use the digital version as a proxy and swap it out with the full-bitrate BR in a couple weeks if you want to get to work right away.
I use traditional proxies for 4k but never tried replacing the actual source file mid-edit. I’m concerned the BRrip frames might not perfectly match up. Did this work for you before?
heil Palpatine!
I’ve had it not work out more than actually work out, so I avoid using proxies personally.
So I just put the song over the fight on the Death Star Wreckage. Didn’t do any work to it at all (as I am not very good at editing), and it seemed to work pretty good:
https://vimeo.com/397812921
PW: fanedit
So I just put the song over the fight on the Death Star Wreckage. Didn’t do any work to it at all (as I am not very good at editing), and it seemed to work pretty good:
https://vimeo.com/397812921
PW: fanedit
Now that is what I’m talking about! I think parts of Samuel Kim’s cover needs to be extended for some music cues of the cover to play perfectly during some moments. A good example would be to have the music heighten when Ben looks at the oncoming wave when locked in saber combat. Thank you for putting this together. I can’t wait to hear back from Hal on this.
The name’s Lawson. Noah Lawson.
