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Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker Redux Ideas thread — Page 35

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One thing I am growing to wonder with so much heavy grading going on in movies these days is: what do the colorists who work on these movies have to say?

There’s so many talented artists who work on these films, including the color graders, and I’d love to hear more about their decisions (similar to the color grading featurette they did for the Fellowship of the Ring EE). Are the tinted highlights deliberate color choices? Are the blanket tints that increasingly appear on blu-ray releases accidents? How does a blanket tint even happen in an all digital workflow?

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Solo and TROS have the worst coloring ever, IMHO.

Italian faneditor.

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Episode IV - THE HEIR OF SKYWALKER. Episode VI - RETURN OF THE JEDI RENEWED. DYAD IN THE FORCE (3-into-1 sequels).
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Holy shit, that’s bad. I don’t remember it being that bad in the theater…right?

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Just finished watching the documentary. Not a glimpse of any deleted scenes. Some alternate shots though, that could help extend some things.
Also, the Rey Skywalker scene; Daisy Ridley shed a tear after saying it in a different take. She also said it in a more solemn way. It was probably just herself (Daisy) getting emotional, but I liked quite a lot.

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ChainsawAsh said:

Holy shit, that’s bad. I don’t remember it being that bad in the theater…right?

That’s exactly how it was in the theater. It’s rare that a modern film is retimed for a blu-ray, so I don’t know why people always assume that’s the case.

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Holy shit, I did not remember the colors for this movie looking so… pukey. It looks like someone barfed all over the camera and no one bothered to clean it for the entire filming of the movie. What the hell were they thinking?

Those regraded colors look pretty good though. Hopefully our combined efforts can salvage something decent out of this mess.

My preferred Skywalker Saga experience:
I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX

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StarkillerAG said:

Those regraded colors look pretty good though. Hopefully our combined efforts can salvage something decent out of this mess.

Maybe I’m being overoptimistic but I’m feeling better about it by the day!

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Wow, I never knew about that until now. Guess I just haven’t been paying attention.

My preferred Skywalker Saga experience:
I II III IV V VI VII VIII IX

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After some playing around, I don’t think a blanket white-balance/color correction will work.

However, I do think that scene-to-scene correction will work.

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Looks nice, but in this case I think this scene should definitely lean towards blue, to contrast the scene in TFA that is red.

“Always in motion is the future” 🌌

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Exactly, I don’t know that perfectly white balancing every scene makes it better when there may be artistic intent behind the grade. That’s not to say you can’t make it better, though.

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idir_hh said:

I see where you’re coming from and it plays well with “the jedi of the past” thing, but looking at it from a lore and canon perspective, it doesn’t make much sense to have Jedi other than Luke, Qui Gon, Anakin, Obi-wan, Yoda and (possibly Leia) communicate from the netherworld of the force without having discovered that knowledge.

It works because they’re not full-on ghosts. They’re brief voices.

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I loved the tv spot that used Duel of the Fates so I took a stab at recutting the song to fit the first section of Rey and Kylo’s Duel. Did some color correction as well.

https://vimeo.com/397732003

Password: fanedit

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R2Poodoo said:

I loved the tv spot that used Duel of the Fates so I took a stab at recutting the song to fit the first section of Rey and Kylo’s Duel. Did some color correction as well.

https://vimeo.com/397732003

Password: fanedit

Dude I love how you synchronized it. It even goes up with the lightsaber strikes!
We talked before about how a more subtle, maybe more somber variation of Duel of the Fates could work great, but watching this… wow. The original is so good

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Hal 9000 said:

Cool! I wonder if there’s ever been an alternate recording of the track. That may help it feel like it’s what was originally done.

There are several other variations of it beyond the main album version, used in other parts of the Phantom Menace.

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According to the person who posted this version, this is an alternate take. Apparently this is the first recording, which is less refined than the OST version. Appeared in some of the TPM era video games, like Jedi Power Battles.

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poppasketti said:

Exactly, I don’t know that perfectly white balancing every scene makes it better when there may be artistic intent behind the grade. That’s not to say you can’t make it better, though.

This is what bothers me so much when I see people complaining about color correcting. I think sometimes people misunderstand the “correcting” part of the phrase. That said, of course it’s fair to have personal opinions on grades.

Something people miss too is sometimes it’s not just the grade. Like the Star destroyers being so blue, that’s the lighting playing a part as well.