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act on instinct
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The Sequels - George's Original Trilogy
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11-Mar-2020, 9:44 PM

ShamanWhill said:

– Darth Talon would make for an interesting antagonist, but I don’t think she should live past Episode 8. Perhaps Jedi Killer kills her in an act similar to Snoke’s death in TLJ. If the Dark Whill / Plaguies remains the big bad it won’t be as crazy as the DT… it would be more Jedi Killer promoting himself to directly serving the Dark Whill.

There’s actually concept art of her seducing the Jedi Killer and then leaving him murdered. I think it would make for a interesting twist in Episode IX. My idea is this: in order to destroy the Evil Whill, Luke must become one with the Force and confront him, but of course Luke must die in order to do this. So he surrenders to the Jedi Killer, leading to his death. Once Luke is dead, Talon then murders the Jedi Killer, revealing that she was using him the entire time. Then Anakin and Luke face off against Plagueis, while Leia and Kira fight Talon; both a Physical Battle and a Meta-Physical battle.

I think the Jedi ultimately killing the Jedi Killer in an act of passionate betrayal (been thinking about contradictory premonitions lately) and thus becomes the Jedi Killer is the way to go, it’s the right double bluff, the motivations are strong, the relationships are deeper. This is where I get a little wary, that momentum should carry over into pushing those protagonists forward, they should have some relation to Luke and maybe Anakin and possibly Plagueis but the ultimate battle should only be enhanced by them, not the main focus. The new characters should not by the finale be watching in awe of ancient Gods they have no direct association with, in a way that destroys the stakes; the grandchildren, the new characters, have to be the active component. And that’s appropriate, the baton pass isn’t the wrong idea fundamentally it’s how we get there.

OutboundFlight said:

– If we go the Sam Solo route, I’d prefer to make it so that Sam thinks he doesn’t have the force because he doesn’t have a natural affinity to it like Kira. But perhaps in the 9th episode, he realizes he had it all along, he just needed to believe he had it in the first place.

You’re right. Based on Midi-Chlorian biology, it wouldn’t make sense for Sam to have 0 Force powers. We can make it so either he’s not interested in the Force, of that by the time he was ready to learn, Luke had already been betrayed by the Jedi Killer.

OutboundFlight said:

Sam Solo is an intriguing opportunity because he’s not like Kylo Ren at all, and being the son of ‘rebels’ we could really have a fun chance to play up the ultimate cocky rebel, especially in the first episode when it’s lighter and establishing the new generation. Think about a teen Han Solo, reckless son of a famous politician, imagine him trying and failing to pick up girls by claiming to technically be the prince of a planet that doesn’t exist anymore. Plus that need for speed and everything that’s been said already about latent ability buried under attitude, like Anakin with the pods but with a charming heartthrob instead of a 9 year old boy. And it nails in on the family situation and gives an easy arc for the character to show contempt and even jealousy toward his family on a bratty kid level only to take responsibility and show his love when the stakes get serious and his family is threatened.

– Why not make Kira’s mother a mystery? Luke never tells her who her mother is, and she spends a while wondering who it might be. It could another Jedi (inspired by Mara Jade) in hiding that returns by Episode 9.

I agree it would make the story much more interesting. She’s described as a loner, so maybe that was the case. I don’t know if making her the daughter of another Jedi would work. Luke was supposed to be the last, and he was described as the last in George’s outlines. If she is a loner/orphan, then she would have to be Luke’s child. But that raises many questions; Why was she hidden? How come Luke doesn’t know? I can understand if she was hidden because of Luke’s betrayal, then that would mean she was a baby, so almost 2 decades have gone by of Luke in hiding? I don’t know if that’s a right move to make.

Twins separated at birth, just sayin’.