Overall, I think a lot of the hate towards TLJ comes to… ok I’m sorry for bringing this quote up again… but your subversion of expectations.
TLJ set some concepts up and I think maybe in part of the constant debate that’s ensued over the past two years, the majority has come to a basic conclusion of what Episode 9 must do. Without considering RJ left things very open.
–Rey should struggle with being no one
–Rey should find a balance between the old and new
–Rey should rebuild the Jedi OrderI understand your point of view. It is kind of hypocritical that TLJ fans constantly say, “You just didn’t like TLJ because your fan theories didn’t come true!” while simultaneously making fan theories about TROS and being upset when they don’t come true.
Incorrect. For instance, thinking Rey should be a nobody in TROS wasn’t a “theory.” It was a fact that was established in TLJ that they reversed. That’s completely different.
In the same way thinking Luke should be the son of a Great Fallen Jedi wasn’t a “theory”, but a fact that was established in ANH that they reversed?
I mean yeah they’re both retcons. But I’d argue, while one deepens and complicates the character’s journey midway through, the other cheapens, diminishes, and reorients the character’s journey right as it’s supposed to be reaching its conclusion.
Besides how stupid Rey Palpatine is, there’s a big difference between doing it in part 2 and part 3. Once you’re 2/3 of the way into a story, you can’t change it that drastically and expect people to think it works.
I disagree. It’s just different ways of telling the story. You could have told an amazing story about avenging one’s death, which would have fundamentally changed Star Wars but would still have worked fine (see: John Wick, ok maybe that’s not a good example but you get the point).
Well I don’t mean to suggest it didn’t change the story, but Luke’s goal was never about avenging his father, it was following in his footsteps. So the change doesn’t throw it off the tracks so much as complicate the goal and what it means. His final challenge would have still been ‘defeating evil,’ it just would have been as simple as defeating Vader.