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Post #1327263

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smpearce1981
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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (Released)
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1-Mar-2020, 12:11 PM

Darth Muffy said:

smpearce1981 said:

Darth Muffy said:

Hi poppasketti,

While Hals Legendary edit has always been my go to for TLJ myself and a few others have been keep to see the third lession scene reinserted back in.
This will also mean having the caretakes back in the background to a degee but the lession conveys so well to Rey and us the audiense that Jedi of old would rather meditate over “their” force then get involved in other peoples problems. This strengthens beliefs as to why Luke is in isolation and his reasoning as to let the Jedi of old end.

Lukes 3rd Lession
Lukes 3rd Lession Clip

Hals stated he does’nt have any interest in an alternate version of TLJ Legenday with this scene and caretakers but would this be something you’d entertain?

Hey, Bud

Not to speak for anyone else but I think the decision across multiple edits is that the amount of work required to complete the abandoned VFX on this sequence in order for it not to seem thrown in or bolted on as an after thought is too much for many editors to justify the time/trouble?

I could be very wrong, and it’s certainly not my place to pass comment but that’s just what I’ve gleaned from similar questions being asked previously?

I am curious though and just as a means of having a conversation, what is it that you prefer about HAL’s TLJ? Not that there’s anything wrong with that view! (I really am just being curious?)

Hal’s TFA: Restructured is my go to cut of TFA

I really think Hal fully unlocked the magic within that movie.

However, Poppa win’s it for me with his TLJ Rekindled. I know his project started on the foundation of Hal’s Legendary, but I really feel he’s found his rhythm with this project now and it’s really starting to take on a life of it’s own to the same extent as Hal’s TFA and hence I don’t think I could go back to the original cut now.

Hi smpearce1981,
In answer to your question personally Hals Legendary v3 edit ticks all the boxes for what I want when watching TLJ albeat the as stated unusable 3rd lesson scene (can see my prefered versions below). I’m not knocking poppaskettis version in any way but I’m happy with what Hal offers with v3 having also intergrated some of poppasketti changes found here also I like Hals method of being less is more and leaving what he can untouched and only editing magor issues. I’m actually rewatching TFA Restructured V4 again at this moment but with Hals commentary 😋.

I have a question though this is going to be obvious once pointed out to me but what is actually unfinished in the 3rd lession deleted scene as I dont see any wires, placeholder vfx or green backdrops in the scene which makes it unusable in an edit? 🤔

Hey bud.

All of the above is fair enough! Hal’s stuff is great so there’s no ‘gotcha’ in me asking the question.

Once again, not wishing to speak on behalf of anyone else, but i think iv read around that the primary reason the scene is determined not useable is down to the bit where Rey runs across the stones.

Its not necessarily due to a presence of wires but more the absence of gravity…at least as we’ve come to recognise it.

The rest i simply can’t speak too? So it might be better to let the editor(s) have their say!

I was thinking about the ‘3 lessons’ thing:

It’s actually ok that it’s left at 2 lessons on account of the breakdown in the relationship between Rey and Luke.

It’s not necessarily a continuity error, she just elects to leave to face/redeem Kylo before Luke got the opportunity to deliver the third lesson.

Neither Luke or Rey were expecting Rey to be in active communication with Kylo and the developments and revelations that arose as a result changed the landscape of their relationship and so the plan simply changed?

I know thats not what was originally planned hence the existence of the deleted scene, but it still works…’from a certain point of view’ ? 😃