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Rikter - not true about the price. You just have to do the rebate wait. You can get a good digital camera and the ip3000.

Current deal if you can find it: Canon a400 + IP3000 for $54.98 AR

Fatwallet explaination

I got an ip5000 Free after rebate with directions from fatwallet.

The Trays are hard to get. Going for $30 on ebay.

5 easy steps to change the eprom and you are ready to print dvds with the north american version. All other canon printers outside of the americas have dvd printing enabled.

Enable USA canon printers
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Hey everybody...I got my TR47 discs in the mail and they have a silver face. No idea if these things are ink-jet printable or not. I'm really hesitant to use my Epson R200 on them because the manual says to only use ink-jet printable DVDs (no thermal or "regular" allowed). Anybody know if this caution is bogus and/or if the TR47 discs are printable? Has anyone printed on them and had good/bad results? Thanks.
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i would not print on them,might bleed or NOT dry,i have the same set and the same printer,just clone the dvd's onto hub inkjet printable dvd'rs and save the originals as backups and print on the copies.
thats what i did
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Yeah, I was thinking of that as an option. However, I only have a single drive DVD-RW on my computer. I assume it would take a LONG time to copy the contents of a single DVD onto my computer and then copy onto another DVD-RW. However, I've never done this so maybe I'm wrong...
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it doesnt take too long,about 20-30 mins to rip to HD and then about 10-15 to burn.(burning @4 speed)i use slysofts clonedvd 2
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I agree with what Dark Jedi said, but wanted to add my 2 cents

They do make ink jet printable, silver discs but I doubt the ones you got are printable. You can always double check with the person that sent them and ask, but they will probably tell you they are just regular discs.

so basically I would do what Dark Jedi said and just make a copy on to a printable disc. It really doesnt take long. and most burning software will do a direct disc copy reading and writing to the same drive. You'll just have to switch the source disc with a blank when the software ejects the source disc. other than that just walk away/do something else while it burns and how long it takes doesnt even matter.

-Darth Simon

ps. my mom has the R300 (which i use whenever im at my parents ) and I love the thing, but i wouldnt try putting non printable discs into it.
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it is not a pretty thing to print on non inkjet printable discs
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Originally posted by: Observer
Here's the only problem I see with all of this: many DVD players specifically state in the handbooks that you shouldn't put ANYTHING on the surface of a DVD/CD. This is mostly talking about stick-on labels, but also includes printing and sharpie's. The reason for this is because it can disturb the spin of the disc while it is being played. This leads to the DVD/CD being scratched and/or the player being damaged. The ink from a printer and shaprie can also melt from the heat within some players and cause damage. Just a word of caution...


Having just seen this thread, I will hark back to this comment.

Generally this is a problem for a lot of DVD players - if the label is not adhered to the DVD face evenly, as the DVD spins at a high rate, the uneven addition of mass can upset the balance of the disc. (they spin from 570-1600 rpm, Constant Linear Velocity)
If there is any added 'wobble' in the disc due to the label, a lot of desktop players not be able to play it. PC DVD drives, on the other hand, will be able to read it OK for backup purposes.

I have had problems with certain printed labels on DVDs. Generally I follow the approach to NOT STICK ANYTHING on a DVD. If I get one with a label, I back it up with a PC on to another disc to watch/archive it.

I am not aware of the 'ink melting' issue for printable DVDs, but I suspect that is not a problem.

I am aiming to get a DVD-printer in the near future, so am interested in various experiences with these...

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Don't forget there are tow types of Printable Disc - Inkjet and Thermal, and I'm not too sure how well you can mix them up (I wouldn't...).

Silver discs are normally good for thermal printers, especially text only.

Inkjet will always come with a white base, although some are better than others.

There is also a spray you can apply to seal in the ink (most ink is waterproof).

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Originally posted by: DVD-BOY
Don't forget there are tow types of Printable Disc - Inkjet and Thermal, and I'm not too sure how well you can mix them up (I wouldn't...).

Silver discs are normally good for thermal printers, especially text only.

Inkjet will always come with a white base, although some are better than others.

There is also a spray you can apply to seal in the ink (most ink is waterproof).


As i said in my post a few up, there are silver inkjet printable discs.

here's a link to some silver inkjet printable cd-r's, http://www.meritline.com/prodisc-52x-cd-r-cdr-blank-media-silver-inkjet-printable.html and if they can do it with cd's why not dvds.

-Darth Simon
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Just want to set the record clean and summarize what's true and what's not:

Stick on labels: Avoid like the plague on DVD. Read what "ntrprs" said. But the major issue is that, due to heat in dvdplayers, labels tends to lose their stickiness and can lift. I don't need to tell you that particular event can cause damage to your dvd player. Mind you, this is not the case with cd-r since it revolves at much lower speed.

Printable Inkjet DVD's:
    First, There is no such thing as ink melting. Ink is a pigment and has no liquid properties per se. They are however very vunerable to water or humidity, it makes the pigment unstable again and causes smearing (even from the humidity of your fingertip).

    They are also vulnerable to sunlight. It cause the ink pigment to fade

That is why spraying the DVDs you want to keep for a long time an interesting solution. It will keep the dvds safe from humidity and Sunlight (UV rays)

Inkjet printable DVD comes in various forms : Silver coated, for that shiny looking finish and plain white, great for photos or full disk graphics. There are also two kind of disks you can buy: Hub printable and Non- Hub printable. A hub printable disk will let you print all the way to the inner rim of the disks (most dvds have label printed to the Hub)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/PapaVader/Hub.jpg
A non-hub printable leave a sizable chunk of the inner rim unprintable (most audio cds)
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y271/PapaVader/Non_hub.jpg

Printable Thermal DVD's:
These type of printable disks need a thermal printer wich uses heat to put color dots on it. This is probably the source of the "melting ink" myth. It is doubtfull that the heat of a dvd player would be enough to affect the ink of a thermal printed disk, let alone the fact that thermal printing is one of the more robust form of printing these days...

Well, it think thats it folks, hope this clears up some misunderstanding I have read in this thread!

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THANK TO EVERYBODY who responded to my cry for help. That's why this forum continues to be one of the best (in my opinion) on the net.

To conclude my situation - I went to Staples and purchased some Maxell non-hub white matte DVD+R's and used them with my Epson R200. They look awesome and I would seriously recommend buying the R200 or R300 for anyone looking for a photo printer. It's only around $100 bucks and it has 6 color ink cartridges...something that only the newest and higher cost printers offer. Now the only thing I have to do is find out where I can get this magical "spray." However, I may opt out of the spray since is probably adds weight to the DVD in different areas if you don't apply it perfectly and I don't think I want to take that risk...

P.S. I was in Best Buy also and I noticed that Memorex sells glossy DVD cover photo paper ($13.99 for 15 sheets). This is a real help to everyone into making DVD covers. The only other way I can forsee getting glossy photo paper big enough for a DVD case is by cutting up 11"x17" photo paper...and that stuff is WAY to expensive since you have to buy 25 or so sheets at a time.
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Originally posted by: Observer
P.S. I was in Best Buy also and I noticed that Memorex sells glossy DVD cover photo paper ($13.99 for 15 sheets). This is a real help to everyone into making DVD covers. The only other way I can forsee getting glossy photo paper big enough for a DVD case is by cutting up 11"x17" photo paper...and that stuff is WAY to expensive since you have to buy 25 or so sheets at a time.


Or alternatively you can move outside of America and just use regular A4!

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Originally posted by: Gillean
Originally posted by: Observer
P.S. I was in Best Buy also and I noticed that Memorex sells glossy DVD cover photo paper ($13.99 for 15 sheets). This is a real help to everyone into making DVD covers. The only other way I can forsee getting glossy photo paper big enough for a DVD case is by cutting up 11"x17" photo paper...and that stuff is WAY to expensive since you have to buy 25 or so sheets at a time.


Or alternatively you can move outside of America and just use regular A4!


I live in the US and uses A4, stupid america and our dumb ass paper sizes. A1, A2, A3, A4 make more sense than letter and legel poop!
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This "mystery spray", as I stated this earlier in this thread, is Krylon #1305 UV-Resistant Clear Acrylic Coating - Gloss. It comes in an 11 oz. aerosol spray can. It's around $5 a can. I can spray around 50 discs with 1 can. I buy it at Michael's (art supplies chain). The non-UV version is #1303. Once you get the technique down, your R200/300 printed discs look as good as anything Hollywood puts out... Isn't that what we're all after? PM me with any questions.

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What are you guys talking about?

Standard dvd covers measure 10 3/4 x 7 1/4. That will fit on 8.5 x 11 glossy paper.

What printers are you using?

My canon ip5000 prints borderless.

Does the r200/300 print borderless?
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Originally posted by: weapon
What are you guys talking about?

Standard dvd covers measure 10 3/4 x 7 1/4. That will fit on 8.5 x 11 glossy paper.

What printers are you using?

My canon ip5000 prints borderless.

Does the r200/300 print borderless?


The R200/210/300/310 sure does do borderless printing. I wonder if you can even still by printers without that 'feature'.

You're correct though, standard covers do indeed fit on that size. The usual complaint I hear about concerns multi-disc cases and specifically silver foil paper.

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Good to know.

I just got confused without the specifics.

Thanks.
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Based on your guys recommendations I picked up a Epson R200. So I'm looking forward to getting that as I'm sure it'll do a much better job then my Lexmark X73 all in one printer I've been using.

I wanted to pass this along to you guys on how to get the Epson R200 for roughly under $30. Once I get the rebate, that's roughly how much it'll cost me, plus I got a digital camera (though I'm sure it's crappy) for free. Just remember to add something small to get it above $100 and then add the digital camera to the mix. Then apply the coupon code the digital camera and PM the item. It should come out to $80+tax for the printer and you get a $50 rebate after you add the camera. I'm pretty happy I found that thread, so enjoy.
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I wanted to second Movealong's suggestion with some added info:

Krylon #1305 works great.

Use an old dvd case as a mount for your dvd to be sprayed..

Personally I like the one from blockbuster. The center circle is longer and it has another circle that basically seals the edges of the dvd disk, protecting the bottom from the spray. It also has indentations so you can remove the disc without touching the top.

Also use one of the foam spacers from a hunderd count spindle to cover the center hub (depending on the size)(use as needed)

Spray 10 to 12 inches away from the disc and start and finish each pass outside of the disk about 5 inches or more.

Let stand for about an hour before placing it in a dvd case. Ready to use in 24 hours.

Wear a mask! That stuff is toxic.

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Can any post some before and after pics of this clear coat crap?
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i can vouch for the label printing on the Canon Pixima IP3000. unfortunately you americans miss out on the disc tray which is a shame as it works a treat. very professional looking results.

ive been keen to try out some of these glossy white blanks but they are incredibly expensive when you can get a 50 spindle of the matte white variety for about 17$au. will be intrested in the spray tutorial as a solution for all the stuff ive already printed.

no one has mentioned this LightScribe technology yet. you actually burn your disc...then flip it over and the laser burns images into the other side. no color of course and its new and requires special media so expensive i assume. intresting idea though.
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Originally posted by: segaflip
Can any post some before and after pics of this clear coat crap?


Here you go, segaflip. Some pics of a disc from my R200 before and after spraying it with Krylon #1305 UV-Resistant Clear Acrylic Coating. See earlier in this thread for my step by step instructions. Verbatim hub printable media used. The off angle shots show how the matte surface can change how different color inks display. With the gloss coating, everything is uniform from every angle. Also, you can see how much more the colors "pop"...

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Thanks, that does make a differences! Nice disc art by the way