logo Sign In

Dracula (1931)- The Transfusion Edit — Page 2

Author
Time

TheBoost said:

 Funny, I never thought to replace that shot, but it would be lovely. I have no earthly idea how to make a decent matte shot, but I'll look into the Dracula's Daughter exterior.

As for the eyes, again i think that's beyond my technical abilities but very cool.

I have most of the inserting from Mexican Dracula in, and need to spend a bit more time on the score. My model is "Bride of Frankenstien" which has

Still scouring old movies for a shot of a strom battered ship to replace the awful Demeter establishing shot.

 Oddly, I don't own White Zombie. Must procure a copy.

There's a shot of a wolf on a patio in Jess Franco's "Dracula." I'm trying to make it b/w and blend into the movie without being too jarring. It would only be a couple seconds.

I want you to list what visual changes do you have in mind. From background replacements to set extensions.

I can put my input of what is possible and what is not and i might try to make some of your ideas.

 

-Angel

–>Artwork<–**

Author
Time
 (Edited)

You might try getting an older recording of Symphonie Fantastique - Hector Berlioz. It would work very well with the film. Many motifs from it were used in The Shining.

Then the beginning of this aria has a very dark mysterious vibe to it. I think it sounds close to what kind of soundtrack they would have used then.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yOkrkSTaaI&feature=related

I have loads of music to draw from, just ask what vibe you want, and I will be more than willing to supply.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

<span> </span>

Author
Time

Nice to see Vanilla Ice getting some work there introducing the piece.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

Call me crazy but I could see this with a Black Sabbath soundtrack. :D

“I love Darth Editous and I’m not ashamed to admit it.” ~ADigitalMan

Author
Time

You're crazy!

j/k.  That would be an awesome easter-egg or bonus feature for something like this.

Author
Time
 (Edited)

I've had to cancel this production. Not just do to general laziness, but do to an excess of appreciation.

Over the holiday I sat down for the first time in a good while and spent some more time on this, and was paralyzed by genuine love of the material.

Studying Dracula and Mexi-Dracula as carefully as I have to make this edit, I've come to love the artistry too much to try and improve "Dracula." Since I can't re-write and re-shoot the weaker parts of the second half, all I'd be doing is minor additions to the already brilliant first part.

I've also come to the conclusion that Mexi-Dracula, while impressive in many ways, is not the necessarily superior version. Cleavage, rats, and some moving cameras are nice, but there are creative choices that Melford makes that I'm not as sure as I once was are superior to Brownings work. Except Mexi-Dracula's cane. That rules.

Author
Time

That's a shame... would have been interesting to see..

Anyone else thinking of picking up where Boost leaves off?

         

 “You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”

– Homer Simpson

Author
Time

I might give it a go at a later date as some of the materials I'm working with on my project cross over into the same sort of ground.

Similarly I might do a reworking of Dracula Dead And Loving It more in the visual vein of Young Frankenstein (I can't do much about the crap jokes but it would be nice to tart up a Les performance seeing as we recently lost the guy).

Author
Time

Bingowings said:

I might give it a go at a later date as some of the materials I'm working with on my project cross over into the same sort of ground.

Similarly I might do a reworking of Dracula Dead And Loving It more in the visual vein of Young Frankenstein (I can't do much about the crap jokes but it would be nice to tart up a Les performance seeing as we recently lost the guy).

 Good to hear that about DRACULA.

Shame about DEAD AND LOVING IT sucking as much as it does... I think the only jokes that worked for me (as in actually made me laugh) was the "stake through the heart" scene and Dracula's dream/nightmare. 

         

 “You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”

– Homer Simpson

Author
Time

It doesn't seem to be on .info yet.

Have you got it, do you get it, if so, how often?
And which do you choose, a hard or soft option?

Author
Time

Bingowings said:

It doesn't seem to be on .info yet.

Have you got it, do you get it, if so, how often?
And which do you choose, a hard or soft option?

 I havent got it yet. I posted before I went to .info 

I;ll let you know if/where it turns up.

I always prefer the hard option. The harder the better I say.

Author
Time

TheBoost said:

Todd Browning’s 1931 “Dracula” is a film that, to put it mildly, is iconic almost by default. As a film, it is perhaps the dullest and most pedestrian of the ‘classic’ movie monsters, Lugosi’s charisma saving many moments that would otherwise have been painfull.

Despite a few moments of sheer brilliance at the beginnig, it exudes mediocrity in many forms, from camera set up, to pacing. It also does not have a score.

My goal would be to make the second half of the film less of a drawing room mystery and more of a horror film on par with the rest of the Universal Canon.

My resources:

"Mexican" Dracula- The Spanish language version of the film has several sequences that are marked improvements. In shots wide enough to get away with it, I may substitute shots of the similar looking Carlos Villarias for Lugosi if the shot is more atmosphereic. I will be replacing the Browning armadillos (mandated by the censors at the time) with the shots of actual rats from the Mexican Dracula. It’s half an hour longer than the English language version.

“Ship at Sea”- Due to the low budget, shots of the ship “Demeter” are recycled from an old silent, and are a different framerate than the rest of the film. It’s cheap and it shows. I will try to find a better series of shots of a ship in a storm.

Score- (I will not consider the atrocius Phillip Glass score). Using the opening credits “Swan Lake” as a starter, I plan to utilize more of “Swan Lake” and probably some cues stolen from other horror films of the era.

"Mark of the Vampire" "Return of the Vampire"- Two Lugosi vampire films. There might be a few moments in each of these of use.

Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstien” The only other film Lugosi played Dracula in, but he’s 13 years older and noticably larger. I don’t know if there’s anything of use.

This film has LOTS of people talking about awesome things that happened off camera. I’m going to scoure all the classic horror/chiller films of the era for bits an peices to steal. Wolves, foggy streets, rats, etc.

Wow, this post is classic vintage in itself! I’m almost done re-editing/cutting of this cranky old tale in DaVinci Studio. The pacing in the last few acts is like molasses. My re-edit does its best to readdress hokey dialog, smooth out wobbly dollys, and cut out anything that does little or nothing but to drag the narrative down. David Manners (John) has to be the single most loust actor to ever grace the silver screen. The hardest part was editing his appearances wherever possible in a vain attempt to make him look in any way competent. His lines and posturing are just maddening. Even things like Dracula’s biting closeup got the snip, as they just look ridiculous. Completely overrated movie, a third of which is little more than fodder for the cutting room floor. Did my best with the “It’s over, John” scene, but fixing the embarrassing dialogue would have meant cutting the entire thing, as they have nothing but hokey things to say to each other for 3 minutes. Interesting exersise. I can finally lay this utterly crap flick to rest. My eventual edit runs 17 minutes less, LOL.