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Post #1324311

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Wanderer_
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Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD *
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9-Feb-2020, 2:57 PM

Mocata said:

But conversely…

  • Luke learns the error of his ways and becomes a true hero

What error? He was right, the Jedi should end, his explanation to Rey as to why the Jedi order failed was the truth. And he wasn’t the hero, he bought the resistance some time instead of actually stopping the first order. Rey saved the resistance in the end.

  • It’s not whether you buy from a black market but what you choose to do
  • Poe learns the error of his ways and becomes a true leader

… By leading the resistance out of a tunnel? I would say he was far more of a leader in TFA where he lead a platoon that destroyed the starkiller base. What did he do in TLJ?

  • Rey is tempted by the darkside and rejects it and becomes a true hero

Lol, that is a very low bar to be a hero.

  • Finn tries an act of stupidity and a hero saves him

Finn tries to save the resistance by striking the core of the canon. Rose prevented that, not to mention one of the lamest lines of dialogue in all of star wars.

  • Holdo is a gruff unlikeable character trope, the kind who has their heart in the right place all along

Doesn’t make her a good character. She was a bad leader, confrontational and irresponsible. She failed to disclose her plan to the second in command… And that line “if you only believe it when you can see it…” ugh. Who writes this stuff.

Personally the stakes are irrelevant, small or big, the overall movie is what matters. Which is … a mixed bag.

Stakes is what defines a hero,otherwise everyone is a hero. Which is an oxymoron.