‘Heir to the Jedi…’ is correct, if semi-archaic.
I don’t think it would be wrong to say something like “heir to the throne,” and “heir of the throne” would sound wrong. ‘Jedi’ acts as a noun in this case.But hey, we’ll see what the crawl ends up like. It’s one of the best parts of doing these edits.
Hi HAL, I promise I’m not wanting to be disrespectful or be perceived to be argumentative:-
HOW is it correct? (other than it being the title of an old EU novel?)
Your examples are interesting:
Heir TO THE * throne = an object, a thing - it works.
Heir OF THE *throne does not. I totally agree
I think where the distinction has to be made is in what actually IS a Jedi?
A Jedi is not an object or a thing that warrants ownership?
A Jedi has been established to be a person/individual who practices an ideology - follows the Jedi code etc
Alternatively, The Jedi can be used when defining someone who practices that ideology (‘The Jedi’, as per: ‘The boy’, The Girl etc) or can be used in the plural for to describe a group of individuals in that group (‘The Jedi’ are extinct as per: ‘The Dinosaurs are extinct’)
To be an heir or ‘inheritor’ implies that there is ‘a right of transfer’ whether that’s of social standing or of assets etc from one individual to another.
Now, you could be an Heir to the Jedi…BUT this is where it becomes about context.
Jedi are supposedly/commonly considered to be non-possessive. So to inherit or possess THE Jedi (the individual OR the collective) the implied ownership is decidedly non Jedi-like.
To be an Heir to the Empire works, the context is self defining, you can inherit and possess it because an Empire is generally ruled or overseen by one (or a few)…it inherently implies the RULERSHIP of others.
And I think that’s my point, Heir TO THE Jedi, may be technically fine to use (context dependent) but what it implies is wrong in this instance?
For example:
If the Story was that of Rey leading the Jedi and altering their values for her own nefarious purposes and eventually taking control, I think it would totally work, but that’s not what’s happening here, and I’m pretty sure that’s not what you are trying to achieve in the edit?
Now, I’m totally happy to be wrong here but I’d just like to know how ‘Heir to the Jedi’ is grammatically/contextually correct in it’s usage here?
Please know that I fully appreciate how his will be YOUR edit, hence you are totally entitled to put ANYTHING in the crawl that you want, it will be yours and the only person you have to justify your decisions to is yourself and regardless of any of the changes you make to the movie, I’ll be queuing up to watch it just like everyone else, so I assure you I’m not trying to speak out of turn or muscle into your work, so once again please do not take this as anything other than me just trying to understand the angle?