I mean, I hate to defend TROS but the very first thing we see Rey doing in the movie is failing. Because of her failure, she decides to run the training course again, the implication being that she’s done this many times and so naturally knows it by heart at this point. They literally went out of their way to appease the fan complaints.
But who cares about what’s actually in the movies when you can put “Mary Sue” blinders on. Gotta twist everything to prove your narrative is right!
Doesn’t matter, Rey still doesn’t struggle enough in the first 2 movies, where the protagonist should struggle the most. It’s like putting whipped cream on a pile of dung, and trying to convince me that it’s actually an ice cream sundae.
And also, can you please stop responding to me with this condescending bullshit? I’m trying to have an intelligent conversation and you just keep belittling me.
I’m not trying to be condescending, but if you’re going to post something ridiculous my response will be likewise ridiculous. I don’t know what’s intelligent about warping the content of the films and then calling this made up version “dung.”
I’m not making anything up, I’ve posted evidence to back up my arguments. I don’t think I’m warping the content of the films, but since no one is going to change their mind about this, I’m going to leave this thread before things get nasty.
I mean, just for example you said the training scene shows us Rey is a Mary Sue, which is a statement that doesn’t hold up to any sort of scrutiny whatsoever. I explained why, and you had no refutation except to say “well what about the other movies!” It’s one thing to hold up the movies as they are and say, “well I get that this is what they were trying to do, this worked for me but this didn’t, and I think that hurts the character” or whatever. That’s an intelligent conversation. But when you’re being willfully ignorant, like with the training scene, it hurts your argument. I don’t know how to respond other than being snarky, if you’re not going to argue on the level I don’t know how I can.