DominicCobb said:
And in some cases you’re even changing what happened to fit your argument. Ben’s ‘redemption’ comes way before he saves Rey from death.Conversing with a memory of his father (in his mind) then throwing his lightsaber away is Not redemption, even if he felt guilty and regretful.
Redemption is earned through penance and sacrifice which I would argue he achieved at the end my giving his life for Rey, ala Vader.
I get what you’re saying and I don’t disagree, but for all intents and purposes the movie treats him like a good guy from that point on (“Kylo Ren is dead. My son is alive.”). His part in the climax is completely different than Vader’s, besides the mere fact that he sacrifices himself (which is done completely differently).