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Post #1319170

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Cthulhunicron
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD *
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11-Jan-2020, 4:36 PM

Broom Kid said:

Again, the big problem with devoting so much time and energy to a lot of these little fiddly details in the plotting is that even if those questions were answered satisfactorily within the narrative - it still wouldn’t be a good movie, would it?

If I put together a 1000 piece puzzle perfectly, but the picture I assemble with no missing pieces is of a broken mirror reflecting a junk-strewn yard… does it matter that all these fiddly details are there and accounted for?

the only notion I want to push back a little on in this ongoing discussion is that there are somehow ironclad “Star Wars Specific” rules that got broken here, and there aren’t, really. There are plenty of storytelling and filmmaking mistakes, and the normal sorts of things that happen to make ANY movie mediocre and uninteresting to sit through, but I don’t think most of The Rise of Skywalkers’ sins are specifically Star Wars related, and I don’t think if many of these grievances had been fixed prior to release, the reception would have been markedly different.

Star Wars tends to break its own “rules” with every movie anyway, and that’s good, honestly. They’re completely made up in the first place. So long as you can cleverly break them, with satisfactorily emotional results (even if the result is as surface level as “whoa, cool!”) then breaking “Star Wars” rules isn’t a big problem at all. Nobody’s going to Star Wars movies to see its rules upheld. They’re going to Star Wars to be emotionally engaged by the story being told. And that’s not really happening with Rise of Skywalker for a fair amount of its viewers.

I’m the first to agree that plot holes are usually the least important things to consider when evaluating a film. I generally focus more on the themes and the characters in the movie. The topic at hand was the things in the plot that don’t make sense, so that’s what my post was focused on. I have a number of other issues with this film regarding the tone, pacing, character arcs, dialogue, humor, and themes. So yes, even if the plot was more logical, it still wouldn’t make this a good movie.

But I still think it’s problem when you have so many vague and unexplained things in the story that the film becomes confusing.