Please understand everything I say about the trilogy has an asterisk that says “excluding TROS.”
I understand, but I think it is also fair to say that all ST movies have the same roots in a lot of ways. A notorious gambler can take a big win, which to many might represent TFA, or TLJ. That same gambler may take a catastrophic loss, which may represent TROS. However, to some of us the main point is not the individual win or loss, but the fact that the man is a gambler. It is the creative process behind these films, that have caused them to be reactionary, and disjointed to varying degrees. TROS is a symptom of an underlying condition, is what many are arguing, a condition that has been present from the very beginning.