Thank the maker. I’m all in to this. Let me know if you want some assistance with this. I can work character removals in scenes and any time code Disney puts in the frame? I got to think with all the reshoots there got to be Additional footage out there.
Been a while for me but this movie requires fixing.
Well, the time is here to consider what to do about this film fan editing-wise. There already discussions going on around here, but this will be a place for me to segregate those which I am interested in and consider, hopefully with input from the rest of you, about what shape this project should take. Most of the best ideas have come from this community for TFA and TLJ, and I’m hoping the ongoing discussions will yield similar fruit. I don’t intent to detract from those discussions by creating this thread, but to let this particular project begin to brew.
For the moment, after going to see the film again, here are my thoughts for potential alterations:
- Opening crawl to remove Leia recon mission and direct mentions of Palpatine. Rather, Kylo Ren is tracking the source of Snoke’s power or something. We still find Palpatine right away, but in the body of the movie rather than in the crawl. It’s also be nice to mention Luke’s inspirational sacrifice to attempt to tie the massive civilian fleet into the theme of TLJ.
Here is a potential crawl, based on one drafted by DZ-330:
“Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKERLuke Skywalker has ignited a resurgence of hope in the galaxy. The populace of countless worlds have risen up against the diabolical First Order.
Rey, the last hope of the Jedi, continues her training under General Leia Organa, hoping to commune with Jedi of the past.
Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren, determined to destroy any threat to his rule, seeks the source of his former master’s power…”
Potenrially space out the triple-voice line to sound more like the trailer for dramatic effect.
Potentially remove the visual of Snokes in a liquid chamber, maybe replacing them with something else, maybe even other Palpatine bodies. Since the movie isn’t going to give a solid account of what happened in any event, the mere line “I made Snoke” could be interpreted figuratively.
If deleted scene is available and suitable, add evil Palpatine broadcast as he lifts the fleet. Hopefully it makes it clear that it’s a broadcast, so later scenes still feel right as they allude to characters already having some idea of what’s up.
Add a Wilhelm somewhere I guess.
I’d like to remove the 16 hour ticking clock. Only problem I can tell is that Rey seems in an awful hurry to get to the DSII wreckage. It does seem to offer some explanation for the constant frenetic hurry everyone is in, so I’m not sure it’d work to remove it.
Maybe remove light speed skipping by ending as they jump the first time, removing TIEs jumping. Or let them jump and we just cut to the next scene. If the former, remove reference to light speed skipping later. However, this would cause a problem as Finn only has one other thing he notices Poe do before referencing all the “shady stuff” he does. (In TLJ, it took a capital ship to track through Lightspeed.) (If this is removed, there’s a later line that might need to be removed when Poe expresses unease about a Destroyer not following them through hyperspace.)
When Kylo and then Rey get flashes of scenes from TFA when they touch the Vader mask, Kylo should get flashes of Luke from Crait rather than Ach-To.
Remove line about how R2 backs up 3PO’s memory. It felt like this movie reacted to TLJ’s style by trying very hard to hardly ever let the audience be surprised.
I don’t like “whoever this Chewie person is, this is madness.” Maybe replace with offer to help negotiate or something as if 3PO were fresh out of the box and ready to do protocol stuff.
Possibly remove the destruction of the planet, and the idea that the fleet each has a ‘gun that shoots Death Stars.’
Seemed weird to me that once he turns to the Light Side, Kylo doesn’t take advantage of his role as supreme leader. Research of mine indicates that the emperor sensed this and put General Pryde in charge at that point. If a deleted scene is presented to this effect it would be welcome. The existing scene doesn’t make this clear.
Remove the line about the Holdo maneuver. If it is something legitimate then someone who lives in that universe shouldn’t have the same misconception as we might.
If there’s any other good way to link the massive civilian fleet with Luke’s ‘spark of hope,’ I’d do it.
New music to transition into the credits, either here or in TFA.
I think one could successfully remove ‘Rey Palpatine,’ but it would be unusual for me to deviate from the lore to that degree. I don’t like it, but I think I’d be better off accepting it and maybe tweaking TFA and TLJ to fit in better. I expect I’ll play around with executing this idea, at least.