The lore’s been broken since 1999. 1997, if we consider the SE “canon” at that point.
I don’t. DEs all the way! 😉
I had a feeling this was going to be a Thor Skywalker video before I even opened it.
And the issue with that is? Why don’t you just try listening to an alternative opinion and make up your own mind at the end whether you agree or not or even just agree with some parts while discarding others. That’s all I do, I take new information or opinion on board, analyse it against my own view and go from there. Sometimes I dismiss it, other times it change’s my own opinion, often to a better and more informed one or one that isn’t so narrow in it’s scope anymore.
You spread repeated negativity across the forum on here - and not much else. You claim to hate TFA/TLJ and not be bothered with TROS - yet you repeatedly post negatively about the film on here - a lot.
People like yourself, who continue to post this type of content (depsite you not seeing the film?), are the reason others have left here in the past, others have left here recently, and others are thinking about leaving too.
It is way beyond ‘valid criticism’ or opinion - it is an agenda. Some have said it is ‘like a crusade’ and I laughed heard when I heard that - but they are probably correct, it is certainly appearing that way.
I am only surprised the moderators here continue to allow it.
Maybe you should open up your own ‘Valheru opinion’ thread and post your thoughts in there rather than pollute the forums with anything that aligns with your endless and negative agenda. And post the videos of youtubers well known for only not liking the new Star Wars films (and profit from that hating on the film and the people who make them) which you agree with, and want other people to also view - despite not having seen the film yourself.
I seem to keep finding myself in situations where I am partaking in discussion just like anyone else, sharing my opinion on various things and sometimes sharing content I find interesting and that I think has relevance to the topic, only for some individual to come out of the woodwork and start specifically attacking me. My general experience has been it is whenever I am criticising TLJ or the DT at large but instead of just responding to what I am saying about the topic, I am singled out and attacked.
People like me hey? I feel your post is entirely unnecessary and borderline insulting, especially in response to where I’m simply suggesting to be more open minded rather than instantly dismissive to what seems like a pretty neutral question posed by Thor. My last post before this one was about acknowledging Ady and I have polar views on the DT but it doesn’t mean we can’t still get along as Star Wars fans that both love the OT. Sure, many of my comments about TROS are negative, that’s just the way I feel about it and the DT at large and while the movie is freshly released there is going to be a lot of discussion around it and I have just as much right as anyone else to partake in it if I choose to.
No I haven’t seen the film but I’ve made this clear up front so people can make what they will of my opinion. I don’t feel I need to watch it, I’ve read the entire leaked plot which is all true and enough story and plot summaries via reviews to understand what the movie is and can extrapolate enough from JJ’s TFA and all the trailers of TROS I’ve seen to know it’s not necessarily worse than TLJ was in it’s specific way but it is probably worse in how bad it utterly fails to conclude the saga, let alone it’s own trilogy. You no doubt don’t share that opinion - no problem. Why is that a reason to leave the site? Who can you name that has left specifically because of me? They are just as free to express their own opinion that I may find distasteful but if I leave, that’s on me. I am not posting in anyway to try and push my view on anyone else, if they don’t like what I am saying why not just ignore it?
Below is an excerpt from my first post in the thread where I make a point of saying “at this point” and also point out the usual extreme reactions occurring. I feel that in most cases I am trying to be as fair and grounded as I can with the information I have and am not going out of my way to be negative, unfortunately that just happens to be my default emotion for the DT now until it gives me a reason to be positive.
Valheru_84 said:
I’ve watched a number of other reviews, read some as well and seen many people’s comments and it’s generally not a greatly received movie at this point. The common thread is mixed feelings and disappointment with the obvious shilling going on at one extreme and some outright unfounded hate at the other.
I don’t hate TFA, in one of my replies to Ady in the other thread I say that I generally enjoyed TFA and was excited for TLJ. We know what I thought of TLJ in the end and it retroactively makes TFA a worse movie for me but I don’t hate it and I don’t hate TROS, how can I when I haven’t seen it? But I do know there is almost a 100% chance I will not like it one bit and have a negative impact on myself so I chose not to see it but I am still interested in how it is being received and how it will affect Star Wars itself for the near and far future. I do however without a doubt hate TLJ.
I have no agenda past that of my own interest and love of Star Wars I have had for most of my life and the desire to talk about Star Wars with other people that are of the same disposition. Unfortunately the fanbase IS divided (many times over at this point) with some pretty strong opposing opinions in various sections of it but again I don’t see why that means we can’t get along in other respects or just be content to leave the other be.