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Post #1312090

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yotsuya
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The Rise Of Skywalker — Official Review and Opinions Thread
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Date created
19-Dec-2019, 12:57 PM

RU.08 said:

IlFanEditore said:

  1. The title… the most boring and obvious meaning. Rey who takes the name Skywalker. That’s all. Nothing from Luke, Leia or Anakin.
  2. Palpatine’s death is just ridiculous. First, in Episode III he didn’t die because of Force lightning being re-directed at him. Why does he die now? Plus, the whole “I’m all the Sith!!!” VS “I’m all the Jedi!!!” is… is… you choose the words.

LMAO, yeah I was thinking much the same thing. Also someone has posted a clip of that scene here. My problem with it is that Palps never cares about another Sith. He kills his master. He sends Darth Maul to his death, falsely promising “they will be no match for you”, do you think he cares? Of course not! He’s testing his apprentice to see if he’s strong enough for him. In the prequels, Palpatine has a really great but subtle character arc. His relationship with Anakin is very different to the one he had with Darth Maul, with Anakin they start out as friends and he uses him to betray the other Jedi. Palpatine single-handedly destroyed the Sith, and then he went about destroying the Jedi as well. So his line, never-mind Rey’s line, just makes no sense he would never say “I’m all the Sith” because he’s claiming to be all of something that he destroyed! He didn’t want to share his power, he didn’t train Darth Vader he just recognised how strong with the Force he was and brought him over to his side. In the original trilogy, Darth Vader is never referred to as a Sith, he’s a Jedi that has been converted to the dark side (for example I’ve always understood “Your sad devotion to that ancient religion …” to be referring to him as a Jedi not Sith).

Well… you seem to have missed the point. The Rule of Two is all about there can only be two Sith because they are always trying to kill each other. For Palpatine it really becomes the rule of three because he has an apprentice, but he always has backups floating around in case his apprentice gets too powerful and might kill him. His goal in ROTJ was for Luke to replace Vader. But Vader is plotting the same thing. In TESB he invites Luke to help him destroy the Emperor and rule at his side. That theme runs throughout the PT. Palpatine loses Maul and immediately has his eye on Anakin, but chooses Dooku as a good replacement to help his plan, but he waits for Anakin before executing it and then arranges a confrontation between them to see if Anakin is good enough to be his apprentice. So when he says “I’m all the Sith” he is saying that no one can take his place. He intends to be the top Sith forever. But what better way of defeating your enemy than becoming their master by turning them to the Dark side, something he is eveidently very good at considering his track record. So him seeming to have multiple plans is quite parallel to everything we have seen him do in ROTJ and the PT. He is either a genius have having multiple options or a genius at finding out how to turn a bad situation to his advantage.