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What are the most underrated aspects of the SW films?

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Based on reviews from critics or general consensus among internet fans, what do you think are the most underrated things about the SW movies? These are my picks:

- The dialogue. A lot of people associate wooden dialogue with all six films, when Empire and SW contain hundreds of memorable lines. There are tons of witty, funny, colorful and creative lines and I think some people forget how good the dialogue was in the OT after seeing the prequels. Everything Obiwan says in ANH and Han and Yoda say in ESB rock!!!
-The acting, especially Mark Hamill, who was very believable as Luke came of age in the three films. Plus, he is a big part of the reason Yoda was so believable (if he hadn't taken Yoda seriously, we wouldn't have)
-I think a lot of people underestimate just how good the SW trilogy is. They are true classics and their popularity over so many years proves it. Do people still care about Annie Hall or Ordinary People?!
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The dialogue is actually pretty damn wooden. That's not really a bad thing, its just how it is.

And I don't really understand what you mean when you say that people underestimate how good the trilogy is... it came in on #15 on AFI's list. And where did you come up with those two random films? Annie Hall is considered one of the greatest comedies ever made, and Ordinary People has sort of faded out of sight. Annie Hall is behind Star Wars on AFI's list (31), and Ordinary People isn't on it. I'm kind of confused .

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The dialogue in Empire Strikes Back and Star Wars is wooden compared to what? Titanic, The Sound of Music, The Wizard of Oz and ET? I'm just saying that comparing the dialogue from the OT to the PT is unfair. There are plenty of great lines in the OT....

"Not entirely stable? Well I'm glad you're here to tell us these things. Chewy, take the professor to the back and plug him into the hyperdrive."

"Would it help if I got out and pushed?" "It might"

"Do or do not, there is no try."

"I've felt a great disturbance in the force. As if millions of voices screamed out in terror and were suddenly silenced."

"That's cause droids don't pull people's arms out of their sockets when they lose. Wookies are known to do that."

"Don't get excited!" "Captain, being held by you isn't quite enough to get me excited." "Sorry, we don't have time for anything else."

"Into the garbage chute flyboy!"

"Will someone get this big walking carpet out of my way?"

"If money is all you love, then that's what you'll receive."

"Governor Tarkin, I should have known it was you holding Vader's leash. I smelled your foul stench when I was brought on board."

"I have altered the deal, PRAY I don't alter it any further."

"I'm looking for someone." "Looking? Found someone you have I would say. mmmm?"

"Then my father is truly dead."

"I'm out of it a little while and everyone gets these dellusions of grandure."

"Whenn 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not."

"I am a Jedi, like my father before me." "So be it, Jedi!"

"I AM YOUR FATHER!!!!!!"

I could go on and on and on.

And in regards to the other comment, I still believe the SW films have not gotten their due. THey didn't win Best Picture, Empire didn't make the AFI list or even get nominated. Nobody in Hollywood has ever ranked SW and Empire as highly as, say, Gone With the Wind or even the Wizard of Oz and I think they should be.
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Very hard to answer, as the SW movies are all but underrated, in every way. The SEs and the PTs on the other hand... But should I go on about those?
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Originally posted by: JennyS1138
The dialogue in Empire Strikes Back and Star Wars is wooden compared to what? Titanic, The Sound of Music, The Wizard of Oz and ET? I'm just saying that comparing the dialogue from the OT to the PT is unfair. There are plenty of great lines in the OT....

And in regards to the other comment, I still believe the SW films have not gotten their due. THey didn't win Best Picture, Empire didn't make the AFI list or even get nominated. Nobody in Hollywood has ever ranked SW and Empire as highly as, say, Gone With the Wind or even the Wizard of Oz and I think they should be.


I didn't say I didn't like the lines, I said the dialogue was wooden. Have you ever sat down and actually listened to all that they're saying... "Good, our first catch of the day" e.g. Granted, not all of it is as bad as this, but some of the stuff is still cringe worthy.

I never felt that the Star Wars pictures were best picture worthy, then again, I don't feel like the academy makes a lot of good decisions. In any case, Star Wars was indeed nominated for Best Picture, but Annie Hall won over that and I would have to agree with that, as I think that Annie Hall is a better film, all popularity aside. Empire was not nominated, but I would definetely have to go with Raging Bull (nominated, but didn't win) over it.

Empire may not have been on AFI's list either, but only one sequel managed to make it on (Godfather II). I think they were trying to put on as many films as possible and not catering to film series' by putting every film in the series on even if they deserved it. Much like ROTK's Oscar sweep, having Star Wars on the list is in place of the entire trilogy, not just the first one.

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Originally posted by: bad_karma24
In any case, Star Wars was indeed nominated for Best Picture, but Annie Hall won over that and I would have to agree with that, as I think that Annie Hall is a better film, all popularity aside.


Holy SHIT!!!


OK jokes aside, I have to disagree. Annie Hall is one of Woodie Allen's weakest and overrated movies, when he did the transaction from loony sex-themed slapstick comedies into pseudo-psychological neurotic NY-based almost dramatic comedies.
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I thought Annie Hall was alright when I first saw it, but really loved it after another viewing. I still prefer Star Wars though.

I do think the OT has some pretty wooden dialogue. Just looking over JennyS1138's list of great dialogue, it really is all in the delivery! It's memorable but is something like "Governor Tarkin, I should have known it was you holding Vader's leash. I smelled your foul stench when I was brought on board" really a great line? It's pretty stilted and I know I wouldn't be caught dead saying it. It's just memorable because Alec, Harrison, Yoda and the gang made you believe in the words with the way they said them. That's something that's in short supply with the actors in the prequels.
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If the dialogue in the original trilogy had been so wooden, they never, ever would have been loved the way they are. Why does everyone have to use the word "wooden?" It's like everyone hears the word "wooden" and it's the only word they can use. "Wooden dialogue" means the lines are lifeless and boring, which the SW films are not. How can the OT film dialogue be nothing but wood when the films are so humorous?

I'll agree that some of the lines are a little silly and campy, but there are plenty of imaginative lines. If the dialogue was really wooden, it would go something like.....

Leia
Governor Tarkin, I should have known you were behind this. I knew Vader could not be alone.

Needa
Good, I'll notify the command ship right away.

Luke
I'm looking for someone

Yoda
Who are you looking for

Luke
A Jedi Master

Yoda
Oh, you must mean Yoda. I'll take you to him now

Han
Not entirely stable? Chewie can you and Threepio look at the hyperdrive.

Han (instead of don't get excited)
Calm down

Leia
I'm not hyper.

Leia
Would it help if I got you the hydrospanners?

Han
It might

Leia
I don't know where you got that idea Han

Chewie laughs

Han
Stop laughing Chewie. But you didn't see us in the south passage this morning. She expressed her true feelings for me.

Leia
You're lying!

Han
I am not.

Leia
You don't know anything about women

etc
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That they are just films and not some kind of holy scripture.

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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
That they are just films and not some kind of holy scripture.


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