Gang, I have bad news.
https://twitter.com/starwarsviscomp/status/1194160489825284097?s=21
*sardonic laughter*
I just read they fiddled with it yet again and went straight to this thread to check whether that’s a joke.
Honestly, it’s just funny at this point. In a profoundly pathetic kind of way.
So much for that rumor from 2015 about how the next SE iteration would revert that scene to the way it originally was in ‘77.
Empire of Dreams is different. I don’t have a comprehensive list but the one example I know of for sure is that the Anthony Daniels is talking about George waddling during the filming of ROTJ and they walk up to Jabba’s palace they replaced the original shot with the 2011 shot with the expanded door.
JEDIT:
One other obvious change is when they talk about Williams recording the music for ANH they replaced the original shots with the SE shots. It seems whenever they show clips from the movie it’s all the 2011 master
After being beaten and battered by prequel hate, I promise not to be that to the next generation.
Wow, they managed to make the greedo scene even worse. The audio of the new line even sounds off as well.
Here’s a little better quality video of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mH19gKo7W7w
Maclunkey!
“In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.” - George Lucas
If we stick to that old hat argument, this new cut is even better than the one we got in '77 since it’s the true original vision made flesh for the first time. A-ha!
Empire of Dreams is different. I don’t have a comprehensive list but the one example I know of for sure is that the Anthony Daniels is talking about George waddling during the filming of ROTJ and they walk up to Jabba’s palace they replaced the original shot with the 2011 shot with the expanded door.
JEDIT:
One other obvious change is when they talk about Williams recording the music for ANH they replaced the original shots with the SE shots. It seems whenever they show clips from the movie it’s all the 2011 master
I assume it’s in HD? The simple assumption is that if they did an HD version of it that they were using the HD versions.
OK, but… why Maclunkey? Of all the changes they could have made, why that one in particular? Who was the executive that thought: “This scene is iconic, but you know what it’s missing? Greedo saying a gibberish word right before he shoots. Yeah, it’ll be like how in a Western they say Draw right before they shoot, but made more Star Warsy.”
If you believe Pablo Hidalgo, that executive was George Lucas back in 2012.
Oh, I believe him. I can’t imagine anyone but George insisting on a change this inane. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall watching him explain to an underling that they really needed to get someone into the recording studio before this Disney deal went down, or else he’d never get his chance to have Greedo say “Maclunkey” like he’d always envisioned.
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
Another thing worth noting: the Warner Bros. logo was dropped from The Clone Wars movie, though they’re still using the version of the Lucasfilm logo that was on the original release.
oojason said:
Plus a new SW film by Kevin Feige to come - who seems to quite popular and successful with his efforts with the Marvel franchise…
I didn’t know about that 😕 (this is terrible news, Marvel movies probably are the worst things in modern cinema…)
Are The Clone Wars series in 4K HDR? I remember MSW saying they were remastering the series in 4K a few years back.
Are The Clone Wars series in 4K HDR? I remember MSW saying they were remastering the series in 4K a few years back.
The movie definitely isn’t
Empire of Dreams is different. I don’t have a comprehensive list but the one example I know of for sure is that the Anthony Daniels is talking about George waddling during the filming of ROTJ and they walk up to Jabba’s palace they replaced the original shot with the 2011 shot with the expanded door.
JEDIT:
One other obvious change is when they talk about Williams recording the music for ANH they replaced the original shots with the SE shots. It seems whenever they show clips from the movie it’s all the 2011 master
That makes me think the unaltered originals will NEVER see an official release again.
Well, add another section to the George Lucas Unreliable Narrator thread. He’s done it. He’s won. He’s successfully rewritten history.
This day just gets weirder and weirder for me. So mixed on it all. Loving The Mandalorian, appreciating the better colors of the movies in 4K HDR, but now there are brand new tweaks and losing hope of ever seeing an official unaltered release.
I can’t believe no one in control cares.
I cannot believe they changed the Greedo scene yet again. You’ve got to be kidding me. It’s a joke at this point.
On the positive side, the colors look a lot more natural and closer to the originals than the Blu-rays and the DVDs. Oh well…I’ll stick to 4k77 and Despecialized and stay away from this mess.
“I speak Spanish!”
I cannot believe they changed the Greedo scene yet again. You’ve got to be kidding me. It’s a joke at this point.
On the positive side, the colors look a lot more natural and closer to the originals than the Blu-rays and the DVDs. Oh well…I’ll stick to 4k77 and Despecialized and stay away from this mess.
What about Adywan’s Revisited edits?
The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.
I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.
I cannot believe they changed the Greedo scene yet again. You’ve got to be kidding me. It’s a joke at this point.
On the positive side, the colors look a lot more natural and closer to the originals than the Blu-rays and the DVDs. Oh well…I’ll stick to 4k77 and Despecialized and stay away from this mess.
What about Adywan’s Revisited edits?
Oh yeah, those are great too. I actually really like those. But I prefer the true, original versions!
“I speak Spanish!”
I cannot believe they changed the Greedo scene yet again. You’ve got to be kidding me. It’s a joke at this point.
On the positive side, the colors look a lot more natural and closer to the originals than the Blu-rays and the DVDs. Oh well…I’ll stick to 4k77 and Despecialized and stay away from this mess.
Ditto for me!!!
I still just stick with the GOUT. It’s sad, but it’s done me well enough for the past 13 years. Maybe I’ll get around to checking out adywan’s work eventually. But the real savior for me was getting into the radio dramas this year. Nothing sullied about those. Han’s the only one who shoots, and there’s not a Maclunkey to be found.
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
I’d say “unbefuckinglievable”, but, unfortunately, that would be false.
Totally… utterly predictable and infuriating.
Any changes detected yet besides the new Tatooine sky and modified Greedo scene?
The silver lining is that George finally realized his true vision for the clouds, as I understand clouds were difficult to render on motion picture back in 1977…
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
I’d say “unbefuckinglievable”, but, unfortunately, that would be false.
Totally… utterly predictable and infuriating.Any changes detected yet besides the new Tatooine sky and modified Greedo scene?
The silver lining is that George finally realized his true vision for the clouds, as I understand clouds were difficult to render on motion picture back in 1977…
Can you show me the new Tatooine sky?
The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.
I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.
I’d say “unbefuckinglievable”, but, unfortunately, that would be false.
Totally… utterly predictable and infuriating.Any changes detected yet besides the new Tatooine sky and modified Greedo scene?
The silver lining is that George finally realized his true vision for the clouds, as I understand clouds were difficult to render on motion picture back in 1977…
Can you show me the new Tatooine sky?
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.
It’s not just the sky that has been changed. The dunes were altered for the SE and they have reverted those back to the '77 version
Empire of Dreams is different. I don’t have a comprehensive list but the one example I know of for sure is that the Anthony Daniels is talking about George waddling during the filming of ROTJ and they walk up to Jabba’s palace they replaced the original shot with the 2011 shot with the expanded door.
JEDIT:
One other obvious change is when they talk about Williams recording the music for ANH they replaced the original shots with the SE shots. It seems whenever they show clips from the movie it’s all the 2011 masterThat makes me think the unaltered originals will NEVER see an official release again.
Well, add another section to the George Lucas Unreliable Narrator thread. He’s done it. He’s won. He’s successfully rewritten history.
This day just gets weirder and weirder for me. So mixed on it all. Loving The Mandalorian, appreciating the better colors of the movies in 4K HDR, but now there are brand new tweaks and losing hope of ever seeing an official unaltered release.
I can’t believe no one in control cares.
One day a film historian will write a book about one man’s madness and the trashing of a beloved trilogy of films. I predict it will be a bestseller.
I can’t believe this craziness has been allowed to continue. Thank Christ the nutter has nothing to do with my two favourites (JAWS & ALIEN).
As long as the fool is breathing, you can forget about the original versions.
Why not, oh, I dunno, just remove the clouds if you’re gonna be making extraneous changes for the sake of extraneous change? It isn’t as if prodigious clouds on a planet so arid that it has no bodies of water ever made any sense, anyway.
Between this and the altered sunset shot in American Graffiti, Lucas’ obsession with altering cloud formations is getting a little disturbing. At least put some subliminal messages in there while you’re at it! 😉
Where were you in '77?
Between this and the altered sunset shot in American Graffiti, Lucas’ obsession with altering cloud formations is getting a little disturbing. At least put some subliminal messages in there while you’re at it! 😉
What? Don’t you see where the clouds spell out ‘sex’? Disney’s pervert animators at it again! And don’t get me started about the added R2D2 boner when Leia gives him the Death Star plans at the beginning. 😛
I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.