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The Original Trilogy Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 10

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DominicCobb said:

That’s an interesting idea, though I wonder if it’s pushing the Jabba’s palace stuff too far back. My gut in this scenario would be to really trim down the palace stuff so you get back to what you’re setting up as the main storyline of Luke and Vader.

My problem with the default order is that Luke is inconsistent. On the palace he is already disillusioned and not nice. He lies about being a Jedi master. So something must have happened to him before.
The Dagobha stuff coming first sets this up perfectly, specially the “certain POV” scene. From that point on, Luke becomes a bit darker, and we see that in the Palace and latter on with the Ewok mind control.

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DominicCobb said:

I’m not sure I understand where that scene would come into play, or how it would relate to finding Luke.

Both the Emperor and Vader are after Luke. That’s the only reason I can think off for Vader to go to the Emperor unannounced. But the Emperor has his own plans, so he denies entry to the throne room.
I feel that this would give more substance to Vader’s actions (for example letting Luke land on Endor).
But I agree that it’s hard to show all this from a short scene. It’s there, but not obvious 😉

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I feel like the Jabba stuff only works as a relatively quick blockbuster opener before we get to more important stuff. It starts things off with a bang, but doesn’t really relate to the plot.

As for the shuttle, I don’t see any need to change it, but that red e-sign looks very nice.

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Playing a bit with the Jerjerod & throne room sequence.
Dialog was edited to make Vader more active and worried about the rebel fleet.
(disregard Vader’s voice on the deleted scene of course, I’d need to replace it by some close up with just his breathing sound)
https://streamable.com/g8i6d

As always, just an idea to see how it flows.

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And here’s an attempt to integrate another Vader deleted scene with Luke going to Dagobah first.
So the first time we see him he’s basically the same character as on ESB.
https://streamable.com/5vc2k

Again, it needs some more audio work, etc, etc.

I think it’s a bit rushed for an introduction, but makes more sense character wise. Really depends on personal preference (spectacle vs substance).

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If I ever make my own edit of the original trilogy (which will use elements from Adywan’s and JSteven’s edits, clean up the audio to make it sound less like a microphone, clean up the grain so it wouldn’t be distracting, and improve the overall look of the film), I will not use the Special Edition version of the windows on Cloud City in The Empire Strikes Back. Why? The fact that they were originally walls informed us that the Empire was closing in onto the Rebels, and now they took that symbolism away.

The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.

I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.

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4throck said:

The concept art for Bespin had windows (see http://filmsketchr.blogspot.com/2014/12/freeze-your-at-at-off-with-star-wars.html ):

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-QwCX6z88f_g/VIH151hoH8I/AAAAAAAAxGo/3E7DSPtWOIo/s1600/besp07.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rQM2ot1J2Ks/VIH18Qkps1I/AAAAAAAAxHk/zWa9O5AbOOA/s1600/besp18.jpg

So on this regard the SE is not adding anything 😉

Yeah, but it still takes away some of the tension and danger, and the symbolism of the Empire closing in onto the Rebels.

The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.

I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.

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FreezingTNT2 said:

If I ever make my own edit of the original trilogy (which will use elements from Adywan’s and JSteven’s edits, clean up the audio to make it sound less like a microphone, clean up the grain so it wouldn’t be distracting, and improve the overall look of the film), I will not use the Special Edition version of the windows on Cloud City in The Empire Strikes Back. Why? The fact that they were originally walls informed us that the Empire was closing in onto the Rebels, and now they took that symbolism away.

Thank you for posting this. I’ve never been sure why the Special Edition versions of ESB have never hit me like the theatrical version, but that seem like a very good point.

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Has anyone given any thought to making the space battles in the movies three-dimensional? It would require extensive re-editing/reshooting, but it would make for an interesting approach, IMO.

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In TROS, the gang refer to the wreckage of the Second Death star on the Endor moon as simply ‘The Death Star’, presumably to not complicate things. I think that adds to the list of good reasons, not least of which being that under the ST in particular we have way too many Death Stars, that we should consider having the DS2 just be a part-repaired DS1.

In ANH, I’d edit the explosion to make it look more like massive damage than full destruction, and in ROTJ, I’d remove references to it being another DS, and add references to it being simply under repair.

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The portion that’s “under construction” in RotJ would be the part that blows up in ANH.

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Has anyone tried deepfaking Billie Lourd (Carrie Fisher’s daughter) onto Leia’s face?

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I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.

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sade1212 said:

Why?

I don’t know. Just for fun.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

That sounds dumb. Besides, she’s already a SW character.

Yeah, I know, but it’s just an idea I came up with just for fun.

The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.

I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.

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How 'bout go all the way, in that case? Nic Cage as Han, Peter Capaldi as Yoda, Joe Pesci as Mon Mothma, etc…

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Anakin Starkiller said:

How 'bout go all the way, in that case? Nic Cage as Han, Peter Capaldi as Yoda, Joe Pesci as Mon Mothma, etc…

That’s actually something I would watch, well done.

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EddieDean said:

In TROS, the gang refer to the wreckage of the Second Death star on the Endor moon as simply ‘The Death Star’, presumably to not complicate things. I think that adds to the list of good reasons, not least of which being that under the ST in particular we have way too many Death Stars, that we should consider having the DS2 just be a part-repaired DS1.

In ANH, I’d edit the explosion to make it look more like massive damage than full destruction, and in ROTJ, I’d remove references to it being another DS, and add references to it being simply under repair.

I was working on a 3-in-1 fanedit of the OT that just had one Death Star (and one rebel base on Hoth).The 3-in-1 part didn’t pan out in a way I was satisfied with, but I’ve been thinking about reviving the project and giving it another go, or maybe trying a different format like a 6-part series.

There being two Death Stars has always been something that bothered me though and this makes it extra relevant.

Reading R + L ≠ J theories

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The way I see it, either the Death Star isn’t fully destroyed in ANH, or you scrap it entirely from RotJ. Given how iconic the incomplete Death Star is, I’m leaning towards the former. Plus, all you’d need to do is edit a single shot (the explosion) and some of the crawls. It’d be super easy, barely an inconvenience.

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My plan was to cut out the whole Battle of Yavin from ANH. After leaving the Death Star, they head to the Rebel Base: Hoth, but the Empire gets there too (since they’re being tracked and all), and they storm the base, and don’t wait for the Death Star to destroy the Rebels, they want to make double sure the Rebels are crushed and the destruction of Hoth would be more symbolic. I had the idea of moving the Trench Run fight to the Battle of Hoth, and having Gold Leader fail to destroy the Death Star, damaging it, but killing Tarkin. However, I never got around to implementing it.

Reading R + L ≠ J theories

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For a 3-in-1 edit, I suppose that works best. I don’t do 3-in-1s, though.

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Do you think it could be possible to edit Yoda in The Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi so it would be much less obvious that he is a puppet (in terms of movements, expressions and skin texture)?

The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.

I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.