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Post #1303975

Author
DrDre
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD *
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Date created
8-Nov-2019, 3:40 PM

Broom Kid said:

Even if we pursue this Coca-Cola analogy, the recipe for coke as it currently stands isn’t the same as it was when Coke was invented. Coca Cola isn’t Coca Cola anymore either. Things change and evolve and those evolutions tend to be accepted for what they are and the definition of what a thing is (and can be) get expanded accordingly.

For the purposes of this comparison, Coca Cola is still, like Star Wars, about 95% the same thing it always was. There are changes and differences. Your argument falls apart because it needs for there to be the idea that only the name has survived, and everything else that makes up its substance has been jettisoned and replaced, and that’s a pretty alarmist and inaccurate representation of Star Wars and the Sequel Trilogy’s contributions to it.

You’re essentially saying you care more about how a thing is made then whether it’s made well.

The idea that the stories aren’t being executed well and are failing or succeeding on their own merits, I have no problem with that. It’s pretty much the point of interacting with art - you judge the works based on how they worked or didn’t ON YOU. But when your interaction with art tends to hinge more on things like “what brush did they use” “whose canvas is that” “where did they source the paints from” and less on “how did this make me feel” then I feel like you’re not really giving the art itself a chance to work, because you’re more concerned (or distracted) with the trivia behind its creation than you are experiencing the ideas its trying to communicate.

No, I’m saying I care about whether it is made well, who made it, and how it fits with what has been previously established. I think the word art is thrown around much too easily. Lucas created something, that by most standards would be considered unique, and original. It is instantly recognizable, and it resonated with a lot of people. Lucas is the main artist, and creative force behind it, and Star Wars is his work of art. Taking somebody else’s work of art, and mass producing it with some tweaks to me isn’t artistry, no matter how well it’s made. It’s at best a good product, that involves storytelling, and craftmanship, that can be admired, and enjoyed, but art to me is on a whole other level.