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The Last Jedi: Rekindled (Released) — Page 17

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poppasketti said:

Okay, I found some time this morning to play a little, and was able to replace one of the stormtroopers in the wide running shot with phasma. In fact, it’s the stormtrooper that Finn jumps over as they run towards the shuttle. The only question would be how to get her into the previous shot. I think the trooper immediately over Finn’s shoulder would be too difficult with all of the rotoscoping that would need to be done. It also doesn’t appear perspective-wise to line up with the trooper than Finn jumps over. This is first pass, so curious if this plus a more obvious reveal in the first shot would work!

https://vimeo.com/363140799
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Thanks for the feedback, everybody, I’m glad it’s looking okay!

RogueLeader said:

That looks nice! Honestly that first shot is so quick I don’t think it is really necessary, unless you wanted that attention to detail.

The first shot is actually considerably longer, I just trimmed it in the vimeo post. It starts with the tie fighter crashing down in the hanger and Finn waking up. Rose then drags him around a bit. If I can get phasma to appear for a few seconds in the background, I think that would help. It will take longer, though, because I will have to roto Finn and Rose. That’s the path I’m going down, but it may take a while before I have anything to post.

Thanks again!

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Ok, here’s the next pass, with phasma now appearing in the first shot as well. I think (hope!) this gives it a moment to sink in and maintains continuity while remaining subtle.

https://vimeo.com/365373837
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@poppasketti There’s an edit in which Luke has his green saber from Return of the Jedi. Do you plan on using it for your edit?

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I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.

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FreezingTNT2 said:

@poppasketti There’s an edit in which Luke has his green saber from Return of the Jedi. Do you plan on using it for your edit?

I don’t think so. I’ve read many arguments for and against this change, and to me they come out a wash. Without getting too far into it, I think there’s symbolic reasons why the blue saber makes sense in the story.

I may be in the minority, but I admit the blue saber didn’t spoil the surprise for me when I saw it in theater the first time. On repeat viewings, it still doesn’t bother me.

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It didn’t spoil it for me either! I was totally oblivious.

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Just wanted to say the addition of Phasma body fixes the biggest gripe I had with this fanedit.

This is such a fantastic project, poppasketti. I’m glad to see you back at it again because your work is great.

While I’m here, I’ll mention my “wish list” that still remains for The Last Jedi, though maybe I’ll just use your work on Rekindled as the foundation for my own fanedit someday:

I wish…

  • …that “The Jedi Steps” played when Luke confronts the First Order. I made my own version of this here, and I think it is SO much more powerful than the music that plays currently.

  • …that Luke’s lightsaber was green. There, I said it. You’re right that there are symbolic reasons for why it is blue, though I will say that I was caught off guard when I first saw the movie and was confused as to why the blue one is what was being used despite it having clearly been destroyed moments before and would be a clear indicator to Kylo Ren that something was off.

On second thought, those are the only things on my must-have wish list. There are a few other odds and ends (I’m still not sure where I land on the Broom Boy sequence at the end), but those are my thoughts anyway.

“The Ziggy Edit” — A Conceptual Fanedit of Return of the Jedi

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-VI-Return-of-the-Jedi-The-Ziggy-Edit/id/17844

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I definitely agree, poppa has made a fantastic edit and it is cool to see how popular it has been (if I had a nickel for every time he’s had to say “PM sent”)!

I will say that although I initially helped brainstorm the idea of removing Rose rescuing Finn, I would like to see a version where Rose knocks Finn out of the way right before the AT-AT shoots him. I think that alone, making it objectively clear that Finn was doomed regardless, would help make Rose’s actions more palatable for a lot of people.

I hope you stick around these threads poppa, because I’d love to see your ideas for other projects in the future!

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@poppasketti The first Rey and Luke scene looks so inconsistent with the ending of The Force Awakens (in terms of the sky and grass). Do you plan on color-correcting/editing it to look consistent with TFA?

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I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.

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ziggyonice said:

  • …that Luke’s lightsaber was green. There, I said it. You’re right that there are symbolic reasons for why it is blue, though I will say that I was caught off guard when I first saw the movie and was confused as to why the blue one is what was being used despite it having clearly been destroyed moments before and would be a clear indicator to Kylo Ren that something was off.

I’m not sure if you’re aware, but ForceGhostRecon’s edit did this. My only issue is that the hilt replacement isn’t entirely seamless. And, well, that I’d finally been converted to the “It should be kept blue” side before he’d finished his edit.

I know he’s been banned here now, but there are others who should be able to point you in his edit’s direction if you want to check out his attempt.

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Hey man! Loved the edit a ton. There are 2 things that I would think need to be cut just for continuity and for pacing.

1# The final scene that ends on the small children from the horse arena. This makes no sense continuity wise especially with the small ring the boy has, since rose never gives it to him. (I used the 1080p version, if you have edited it out in another version might want to include that in the 1080p one)

2# This is a smaller issue, but for saving the focus and tension of the scene (and my sanity). Please would you cut that small scene with the one rebel fighter next to Gareth Edwards on Crait who out of nowhere comments on the ground with salt (the new coarse and ruff irritating sand).

There are smaller changes from other edits that I do enjoy and think help preserve the dwindling intelligence of the original film such as: cutting the “Oh No” from the very beginning, cutting straight to the star destroyer in the atmosphere (preserve the urgency of the scene), cutting a few of the slap stick level reactions from Admiral Hux from the very beginning, the slapstick porg on the windshield on crait, the “right away sir” after Kilo shoves Hux at the end (funny but it just ruins the atmosphere, SW has always had comedy but taken its character drama very seriously) and the cringy “may the force be with you hehehe you go I’ve said it enough” flub (just cutting to “MTFBWY Always” is plenty) in my opinion.

There are other things that would help the SW canon such as “magnetic mines active” when dropping the bombs such as in Ivan’s version, and the cutting of the “God’s speed rebels” line which bugs me so much (I am even a Christian (or religious) but if you think about this line for even a few seconds it opens a can of worms which asks a crazy question I don’t want asked in a star wars movie…Who is God in Star Wars???). The hyperspace collision is likely unfixable which is so unfortunate since it is the largest open can of worms, but unless I missed something the fact the rebels couldnt contact anyone else in the galaxy while they were on their cruiser being chased is a plot hole (I know they are running out of power but if they have enough for another full light speed jump then they have enough for one phone call to someone to ask them to call everyone else).

Anyway lol I obviously have some problems with the original version, but I really appreciate yours! Thanks for all the hard work and creativity you have put into this.

May the force be with you.

This is the way.

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Hey, thanks for the kind words, eveybody! And thank you for your thoughts and suggestions, I will try to respond to them later when I can (this is the busiest time of the year for me at work).

RogueLeader said:

I hope you stick around these threads poppa, because I’d love to see your ideas for other projects in the future!

I do intend to stick around, as I’ve been following this site for many years! I don’t know if I’ll have another fanedit, but I’m happy to help others with FX work when I can.

It is possible I may do something with LOTR: Return of the King. Last year I started playing with it just to tweak some minor things that bugged me. I didn’t finish, but I may return to it eventually!

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Do you plan on re-inserting the deleted scene where BB-8 shows Finn a hologram of Rey from the end of The Force Awakens?

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I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.

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ziggyonice said:

I wish…

  • …that “The Jedi Steps” played when Luke confronts the First Order. I made my own version of this here, and I think it is SO much more powerful than the music that plays currently.

Hey Ziggy, thanks for the comments and suggestions! For your wish list, I do hope someone incorporates the Jedi Steps into the ending the way you had it. But, for me, “The Spark” is just too good to remove. It’s my favorite track from the new score. The Jedi Steps was my favorite from TFA, and they both give me goosebumps! But I can’t remove an incredible and climactic John Williams track. I hope someone else does, though, because it’s a great alternative!

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Here’s a long post of responses to some of the suggestions. All good ideas, and I could change my mind down the road, even if I say otherwise below!

RogueLeader said:

I would like to see a version where Rose knocks Finn out of the way right before the AT-AT shoots him. I think that alone, making it objectively clear that Finn was doomed regardless, would help make Rose’s actions more palatable for a lot of people.

That’s a good alternative idea, which someone could easily make using bits of this version. I still don’t think I’d be able to buy that it wouldn’t kill them both. I also like this being simply Finn’s moment in the darkest hour of the Resistance. He’s lucky to survive his suicide run, but not by being saved. The momentum doesn’t shift until Luke saves the day, followed by Poe, and then Rey.

FreezingTNT2 said:

Do you plan on re-inserting the deleted scene where BB-8 shows Finn a hologram of Rey from the end of The Force Awakens?

It’s one of the better deleted scenes, but I don’t intend to use it. It does provide some motivation for Finn, but I don’t think it’s really needed, and believe it has an unfinished FX shot.

FreezingTNT2 said:

@poppasketti The first Rey and Luke scene looks so inconsistent with the ending of The Force Awakens (in terms of the sky and grass). Do you plan on color-correcting/editing it to look consistent with TFA?

This is the kind of thing that I understand why people would want to fix, but it just doesn’t bother me. I also feel like this is the type of thing that could spiral out of control, because first you fix the color, then the cloud cover bothers you and you decide to roto/replace the sky, then you realize that Luke and Rey look slightly different…etc. At some point, I just became okay that they were filmed years apart.

Axios said:

1# The final scene that ends on the small children from the horse arena. This makes no sense continuity wise especially with the small ring the boy has, since rose never gives it to him. (I used the 1080p version, if you have edited it out in another version might want to include that in the 1080p one)

2# This is a smaller issue, but for saving the focus and tension of the scene (and my sanity). Please would you cut that small scene with the one rebel fighter next to Gareth Edwards on Crait who out of nowhere comments on the ground with salt (the new coarse and ruff irritating sand).

For #1, there’s a chance of bringing back the brief introduction of the horse boy. I think Hal might have been working on that but I’ll have to follow up. But generally, the end of the film could take place anywhere, and those could be any oppressed children in the galaxy. The point is that word in spreading and Luke’s legend has been reignited. There’s excitement again for the rebellion. I agree the ring is a bit out of nowhere but I haven’t found a good way to remove that shot, and I love the scene otherwise.

For #2, honestly it just doesn’t bother me. It’s a strange planet they’ve come to, and he’s commenting on it. Besides salt can be course, but also fine. It’s not like here. Here everything is soft… and smooth— oh no! I’ve gone mad.

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Been awhile since I’ve checked out your thread and I like the whole Phasma thing! Very nice touch! Can you send me a link for your latest version.

Also, to kind of continue the topic about Jedi Boi. On Hal’s thread, we were tinkering with extending Canto Bite(s) scene that includes the balcony scene where you first see the kids. By trimming things up a little bit and removing Rose’s line about wanting to punch a hole or whatever she says about Canto, it helps connect the kids without too much more baggage from Canto. … here’s what it does: A.) We see Jedi Boi and the kids where he tries to stand up to whip dude and B.) Finn sees the ugly with Canto and the Galaxy (remember how “sheltered” he is).

I like this approach since although I applaud the heavy trimming of canto, especially the removal of the chase scene, it does feel rush as is. By reinserting these scenes, we achieve the necessary connection with the necessary trimming intact.

Here is what Hal came up with after we played around.

https://vimeo.com/346999083

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Hey jarbear! Great to hear from you, and I just sent you a PM.

I definitely will check out the canto bight tweaks you posted, thank you both for working on that! I think will likely be an essential part of a V2!

For those requesting PMs, I should mention that the latest encode is still the June 21st encode, so it doesn’t have the recent Phasma change (which is currently the only change since). Work is very busy now, so I won’t be able to make a new encode for a little bit.

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poppasketti said:

Hey jarbear! Great to hear from you, and I just sent you a PM.

I definitely will check out the canto bight tweaks you posted, thank you both for working on that! I think will likely be an essential part of a V2!

For those requesting PMs, I should mention that the latest encode is still the June 21st encode, so it doesn’t have the recent Phasma change (which is currently the only change since). Work is very busy now, so I won’t be able to make a new encode for a little bit.

I think it’d be worth holding off on releasing a new encode until December at the earliest, not just for the Phasma corpse addition, so you can push a major update before TROS but still have time to incorporate not just the Phasma corpse, but any other additions (like a slight Canto Bight extension) that you’ll have time to implement over the next month and a half or so.

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No chainsaw! I got a Star Wars marathon on the thanksgiving break, so it’s all about me!

Lol.

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I absolutely love this fan edit and everything it does, but I was messing around with something and made a very rough edit that changes when events take place during the Leia scene, I just changed some of the scenes around from your edit but I think this seems like it could be cool, It makes it where you see Leia immediately get pulled inside after the ship is fired on and you see Poe’s reaction.

This is a very rough edit but I think this could be a way to fix that scene more: https://vimeo.com/369222411
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I’ll admit that it’s been a while since I sat down to watch Rekindled, but that doesn’t seem any different to me than how Poppasketti already has it in the edit.

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ChainsawAsh said:

I’ll admit that it’s been a while since I sat down to watch Rekindled, but that doesn’t seem any different to me than how Poppasketti already has it in the edit.

I’m pretty sure that he still has it as the preview version that he has up on the first page of the thread, I could be wrong though. It’s been awhile for me too and I just realized he was still working on this when checking on this.

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Hey Gabe!

Thanks for posting! I appreciate the edit, and it’s always fun to see other ideas.

What you posted is definitely different from what I have. You made it so that immediately after Poe points out the window we cut straight to Leia on the gurney. The thing is, it feels too abrupt to me, and doesn’t pace out right with the music or position of the characters. The bridge just exploded, and we immediately see and hear Leia getting medical treatment. More importantly, because it happens so fast, we don’t have time for it to sink in that anything has happened, and we lose Kylo-Ren’s reaction to what he thinks is his mother’s death, which I think is a very important moment.