…UHHHH, where did I ever conflate toxicity and racism with being a white male problem Dre ? And I was not the one who brought that video into the discussion here ,and I am not "laying claim " to anything , I think those who understand the spirit and intention of this thread know perfectly well what I meant
You misunderstand me. I did not say you conflate toxicity and racism with being a white male problem. I drew a parallel between defining toxicity as being strictly the insulting and berating and harassing one specific group of people, and defining racism as the insulting and berating and harassing a specific group of people. I’m not saying you define racism as such. I’m pointing out, that such definitions are faulty, and so rather than state:
“Being a toxic fan is when you’re insulting and berating and harassing the people making the movies or the people that like them.”
It would be more apt to state:
“Being a toxic fan is when you’re insulting and berating creators and other fans either in rejection or support of works of art. However, in this thread I would like to restrict the discussion to the toxic elements in the Star Wars fandom, that insult, berate, and harass the people making the movies or the people that like them.”
According to your definition a person who insults, berates, and harrasses those that dislike a movie are not toxic fans. I reject such a notion, just like I would reject the notion, that a person of color who insults, berates, and harrasses white men for the color of their skin, is not a racist.