Why is this same kind of article still being published?
Because near-on two years of this stuff just isn’t enough?
Oh… clicks, ads and $$$ from sensationalising and misleading titles and headlines with certain keywords to try and attract hits to said articles too.
It doesn’t apply so much to this article - yet there’s money to be made from peddling division, hate, toxicity and negativity online - and enforcing (repeating again and again) those views.
At no point are there quotes from Rian Johnson in the article stating he ‘subverted’ anything.
The only quotes from him in the article are…
“I think the instant you start thinking in terms of how do you not step outside of the bounds of what the original movies did, you’re not thinking the way the people who made the original movies did,” he said. “With every movie, they were pushing it forward, with every movie they were stepping outside those bounds and pushing the characters into new, emotionally honest, but surprising places."
“That’s why those movies are great. That’s why they’re alive. If they had been looking at something that came before it and saying, ‘Oh, we better not do this because that is outside of this or that,’ it would’ve been different.”
I think the video is every bit as bad as what he’s supposedly railing against (if not worse). Lest I be accused of being ‘toxic’ myself, let me reiterate that I’m left-leaning, drink soy milk, and despise what the internet has become. But this video is exactly the kind of smug clickbait crap that he’s supposedly taking a stance against. Any idiot can pull quotes from the likes of Jeremy from Geeks and Gamers and build an entire case around it. This is ridiculous. We have to get away from this stupid Star Wars tribalism and let each argument be assessed on its merit and intent, rather than these insane ‘us vs them’ rampages on both ‘sides’.
Worse than the videos he’s supposedly ‘railing against’? Seems he pulled a fair few videos, across a range of time, from far far more than just the one channel, and put together a video highlighting some of the toxic, divisive, and negative clickbait around over the past couple of years. Is what was featured in the video mis-representative of the channels featured? No.
‘clickbait crap’? Well, he did title it the ‘Review Of The Fandom Menace’ 😉 Yet I don’t see the usual keywords associated these type of videos. In fact, in the description there is nothing there apart from ‘They were nobody’.
Highlighting the content of these toxic videos isn’t ‘tribalism’ - it is giving an insight, an opinion (seemingly quite a rare one), to just what some of them are actually about and - how they operate without factual info, balance or seemingly much thought or research.
‘Ridiculous’? How is the video ridiculous? I’d say it is pretty informative - in a light & non-serious sense - given the nature of the video. I’m not aware of their being other videos out there akin to this one (if there are, please are let me know - I’d like to see how they compare, for one). Afterall, any ‘idiot’ can put together such a video?
As said before, I don’t agree with all the points made (who does?); many others likely won’t either - and will take different things from it. Though going on your post re this video alone… man, you must be absolutely scathing about the actual countless toxic, negative and divisive videos out there over the past few years… perhaps could you point me to some of your critical posts on them, please?
By the way MajorLee debated Mauler and crew on a series called EFAP and couldn’t answer/justify any of the legitimate concerns (ie plot holes, lore, character arcs etc etc) concerning TLJ. His default was along the lines of an exasperated “I don’t care, I just love this movie”. And that’s fine, but to then turn around and push this particular narrative, when he knows full well that there are wide ranging and legitimate views concerning these films, is disingenuous at best. He is literally being just as petulant a fanboy as those he seeks to bring down.
Don’t be fooled by the fact that you might agree with his sentiment.
I don’t know who those guys are, and I’m not sure what that has got to do with the video above - unless it’s something to be used against the creator of it? I don’t know anything about this Major guy (I haven’t even checked out his other videos) - seems he did a decent job highlighting some of the toxicity, negativity and absurd claims going around from a fair few youtube channels & social media, in it.
‘Don’t be fooled by the fact that you might agree with his sentiment?’ - I don’t think anyone is - it’s more about the video he made - than the character behind it (like I say I don’t know anything about him). And in this context does it matter? Probably not.
‘push this particular narrative’ - again, I don’t think he is pushing anything - other than offering an insight into what goes into many of these toxic or repeatedly negative video channels - and also what doesn’t go into them.
It seems you are attempting to somehow discredit the man behind the video - rather than discussing the actual content he highlighted in the video. A shame, that.
By the way, did you attempt a similar stance / criticism to the video creators of the more toxic channels and media which you also have taken issue with? Could you point me to some of them, please? I’d be interested in reading them.
That video should be required viewing for everyone who comes here to peddle bullshit, hate, and racism. Even if half of the assholes featured actually believe their own misogyny and racism, it’s still too many. Our culture has become toxic and this is an extension of it. The louder voices, like Zero, are just tending to their herd and keeping them angry. I almost feel sorry for their followers. I’m going to have to keep that link handy for when I’m banning trolls.
Likewise for your above response, Jason. You summed up everything that (unfortunately) needs to be repeated from time to time. People need to go outdoors occasionally. I’ve a mind to make that an announcement post. If I thought it could be done, it would be a required read before a new account is able to participate.
We could look into the possibility of doing something akin to this…