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DominicCobb
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The Rise of Skywalker box office results: predictions and expectations
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20-Aug-2019, 5:01 PM

act on instinct said:

DominicCobb said:

Yes, “similar” and “the same” are two different things. I think it’s safe to assume on this site we know ANH pretty well, so I’m sure we all were able to pick up on most if not all the similarities on our first viewing of TFA. No need to insult anyone’s intelligence either way by trying to make it out to be something it’s not, we all know what the fact of the matter is (and, at this point, should know that it was obviously intentional). So the debate should not be arguing back and forth about what the similarities are and how many there are, but rather whether or not they work in the film’s favor or are detrimental to it.

Personally, I like to take a more reasoned approach. I get why people don’t like TFA because it’s “too similar,” but I find often people don’t go beyond that, they just think similar=bad, therefore TFA=bad (I shouldn’t have to say this, but obviously not everyone is like this). That is frustrating thing to see, especially when this is a franchise that has always been built off preexisting parts, and has been including echoes of other films within this franchise for years. For me, you can’t take a binary look at it. For instance, the worst part of TFA (in my opinion) is the inclusion of Starkiller Base, not simply because it is a repeat of the Death Star, but because it is only really in the film to repeat the Death Star, and thus feels inorganic to the rest of the story - whereas other repeated elements fit far better and serve a more justifiable purpose in this narrative and actually work in the film’s favor.

I think “TFA is the same” reaction comes from JJ and all more or less confirming it was their intention to reboot the series, which for many seemed appropriate. Reliving ANH was a big part of the fun factor watching TFA. JJ’s big problem ultimately was those mystery boxes, makes it hard to rewatch and most people I know saw it twice and most enjoyed it less the second time, because underneath the fan service TFA doesn’t set up anything but more mystery boxes, so it feels like a bridge movie to TLJ.

See I wouldn’t say that is universal. Lot of people I know saw it more than twice, lot of them people who don’t usually do that. Simple explanation: the film is fun as hell. Truth be told, I liked the film the least the first time I saw it, all the clunky mechanics of the plot and the repeated beats and fan service moments stuck out to me, and made it hard to fully enjoy. But upon my second viewing, knowing exactly what to expect, I was able to just enjoy the ride. The film has a lot to offer beyond mere set up - it’s a great adventure in and of itself, and I think it’s a shame a lot of people get tripped up on the usual memes ‘rehash this, mystery box that.’