Yeah I think they’re fair points of discussion, but I think a lot of people who dislike the new movies try to use numerical data as evidence to prove that they’re objectively bad and justify their own opinion. So it hard to determine what discussion is sincere or what is in bad faith.
This is not just an issue for those that dislike the films, or are critical of the more recent movies. People in general try to justify their own opinions, whether it’s positive or negative. However, I think in the end no matter how good or bad you feel the movies are, this type of division in the fanbase is not benificial for the future of the franchise.