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Post #1286914

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LordPlagueis
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The Last Jedi- Full Movie Re-Edit
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Date created
27-Jun-2019, 10:46 PM

StarkillerAG said:

LordPlagueis said:
The Hux monologue is a thousand times better than the Hux prank call, which turns a menacing fascist general from The Force Awakens into a bumbling idiot.

I’d prefer if the Hux scene was cut completely. Hux was menacing in TFA, we don’t need to re-establish that.

I thought the "activating magnetic bombardment was a nice touch.

This isn’t Star Trek though, it’s fantasy. Not everything needs an explanation.

I am not against the Finn-Rose subplot, but I hated the Maz Kanata hologram action scene and DJ’s stuttering.

I hated a lot more than that: Rose fangirling over Finn, the wacky casino, the unnecessary war profiteering message, freeing the animals and not freeing the slaves, Phasma returning only to die again, and BB-8 in an AT-ST.

These are fair criticisms.

Ivan Ortega’s cut of Finn’s sacrifice was far preferable to the theatrical version. Stopping Finn from sacrificing himself endangered the Resistance and dishonored her sister, who similarly sacrificed herself. Although I prefer edits where an AT-At shoots down Finn, this is an improvement.

Why can’t an AT-AT shoot Finn down? Other edits have shown how easy it is. Including footage of Finn dragging Rose back to base just asks more questions than it answers.

An AT-AT shooting Finn down is a better idea, but either idea is better than the theatrical version.

The mention of spies is necessary to explain why Holdo never reveals her secret plan.

No, it isn’t. Poe’s recklessness destroyed half the fleet and got him demoted. That should be enough of a reason why Holdo never tells Poe the plan.

I am surprised anyone would complain about Ackbar replacing Holdo in the hyperspace kamikaze. Holdo never had a character arc: She refuses to reveal her secret plan for no reason and then dies. If an established character sacrifices himself instead, the scene carries a greater emotional weight.

It’s less Holdo’s arc and more Poe’s arc. Holdo is a plot device that teaches Poe not to let his emotions control his actions. If Holdo, a character that Poe thought couldn’t be trusted, sacrifices herself to save the fleet, it emphasizes that lesson. Ackbar taking Holdo’s role in the suicide run is just blatant fan-service that sacrifices storytelling.

There is no correlation between sound military strategy and suicide bombing. Am I supposed to believe that if an admiral sacrifices herself, her military strategy was wise and her doubters were foolish? In terms of military strategy, Holdo’s plan was to evacuate in emergency craft without light speed–instead of in escape pods with light-speed–to a planet in plain sight of the First Order.

Poe’s relationship with Holdo conveys the value of obedience to authority. Holdo’s hyperspace kamikaze conveys the value of self-sacrifice. These are distinct themes, so the latter sequence cannot enhance the former sequence thematically.

The screenwriters should have killed off Poe when he and Finn crash-landed on Jakku. In The Force Awakens, Poe is so insistent that they retrieve BB-8 one moment only to desert the planet without retrieving him the very next, contradicting his character motivation. When Poe shows up after seeming to die earlier in the film, I could tell that J.J. Abrams rewrote the script to satisfy Oscar Isaac instead of to tell a good story.