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Master Lawdog
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * SPOILER THREAD *
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1-Mar-2019, 12:47 AM

leetwall31 said:

nl0428 said:

leetwall31 said:
That’s good advice man, to all of us. Personally, I just wish they had made George’s sequel trilogy instead. I don’t like this retreading they’re doing in the new movies. George’s trilogy sounds so crazy and new, so I wish we could’ve had that instead. Then they could’ve done this retreading plot line.

I believe that this is a technique that George Lucas had for the saga that Abrams and Johnson are continuing. Here’s what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ZW1gtCljs

Oh I totally agree with the poetry stuff. That was genius. I meant retreading in the sense that the stories similar. I’m fine with things happening in a similar fashion, but not when the exact same story with different characters is being told. That’s just pointless.

I don’t think the same story is being told. I thought The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi felt different. They did follow a similar act structure to the original trilogy in some ways, but I never felt like I was watching the same story all over again.

The Force Awakens feels like classic Star Wars, that’s why we loved it; we had forgotten that feeling. And I still disagree man. Let’s look at the story parallels, maybe you’ll see what I see:

Original Trilogy

  • The good guys are small and weak, the bad guys are powerful and strong
  • Villain is an ex-Jedi who turned bad and murdered the other Jedi
  • The villain’s master is an old, frail and powerful leader
  • Droid has McGuffin file that everyone is after
  • Orphan on desert planet gets swept up on an adventure
  • Character from previous trilogy dies
  • There is a Planet Destroying Weapon that is destroyed
  • Orphan is trained by an eccentric hermit on remote planet who refuses at first
  • The Villain wants the Oprhan to join him
  • Eccentric hermit dies on remote planet
  • The Villain kills his master

Sequel Trilogy

  • The good guys are small and weak, the bad guys are powerful and strong
  • Droid has McGuffin file that everyone is after
  • Villain is an ex-Jedi who turned bad and murdered the other Jedi
  • The villain’s master is an old, frail and powerful leader
  • Orphan on desert planet gets swept up on an adventure
  • Character from previous trilogy dies
  • There is a Planet Destroying Weapon that is destroyed
  • Orphan is trained by an eccentric hermit on remote planet who refuses at first
  • The Villain wants the Oprhan to join him
  • Eccentric hermit dies on remote planet
  • The Villain kills his master

These are major plot points, only differences are in characters, location and time. They are trying to tell us a new story, they’re trying really hard. But it’s not.

I understand what you’re trying to say. I really think you should check out Chris Stuckmann’s analysis video. He made it when The Force Awakens was still playing in theaters, but it’s still a very good video. He essentially says nearly everything I have to say. Enjoy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbaliPyihCY