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Info Wanted: who no UK PAL LaserDisc Version for a DVD transfer?

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Why doesn’t anyone use the UK laserdisc version to make a dvd transfer? It’s much easier than using german or french versions and having to change audio/crawl.

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Because there was never a widescreen version released in the UK.

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It isn't widescreen? Oh... That's too bad! Well I figured there was something about that version otherwise someone would have used it.
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Well there's the French boxset that has English audio (with French subtitles outside the picture) - but it's too pricey for me.

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Originally posted by: Moth3r
there's the French boxset that has English audio (with French subtitles outside the picture).

So that's the best laserdisc version out there I would say! Does anyone have it?
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It´s utterly bizarre that there wasn´t a UK laserdisc release, with Germany and France getting a release. Was the laserdisc market in the UK that small? Anyway, yeah, that tasty french laserdisc may just be the highest quality version of the Original Trilogy out there! I wonder how much one would have to fork out for a copy of one of these? Had any experience with that Moth3r?
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I forget what it cost me for the French set. Not cheap, that's for sure! Part of that was the shipping from France, but still: for a dead format, it was pretty pricey.

So there are another 997 copies of the German edition besides mine, eh? Cool.
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The German THX set cost me £76, £56 for the set+postage from Germany to UK, and the £20 is what my bank charged me for the international bank transfer if the seller had PayPal as a payment option it would've cost less than £50 because at the time I had a 20% PayPal voucher.
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Originally posted by: Rebelscum
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Anyway, yeah, that tasty french laserdisc may just be the highest quality version of the Original Trilogy out there!
I expect that the video quality is exactly the same as the non-boxed-set version I used in my transfer (apparently the missing screen wipe/Ben's hut problem is also present on the boxset).

It would be nice to get a direct digital copy of the English audio at PAL speed, though.

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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Originally posted by: Moth3r
there's the French boxset that has English audio (with French subtitles outside the picture).

So that's the best laserdisc version out there I would say! Does anyone have it?



I do.
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There you have it Moth3r! Ash 595 is your new best friend! He has those discs! Nice 1 Ash595!
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Someone else offered to lend me that set before, but it's pointless at the moment as I don't have a sound card that can digitally extract the PCM stream from the laserdisc.

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Originally posted by: Arnie.d
Originally posted by: Moth3r
there's the French boxset that has English audio (with French subtitles outside the picture).

So that's the best laserdisc version out there I would say! Does anyone have it?


I have it. But at the moment I don't have the hardware to digitally extract the audio.

Actually I'm looking for a decent soundcard to extract it.

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It would be great to get a DVD transfer from the best possible source. I´m from Iceland and here we use PAL. I made my own DVD transfers from my THX widescreen VHS tapes a while back and although it suffers from the usual VHS jitters, it´s often more crisp looking and smoother than my good old TR47´s. Now I know that those french laserdisc versions offer much better quality than VHS, so a decent PAL version of the OT is absolutely mouthwatering. Bring it on fellas!
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Originally posted by: Rebelscum
It would be great to get a DVD transfer from the best possible source. I´m from Iceland and here we use PAL. I made my own DVD transfers from my THX widescreen VHS tapes a while back and although it suffers from the usual VHS jitters, it´s often more crisp looking and smoother than my good old TR47´s. Now I know that those french laserdisc versions offer much better quality than VHS, so a decent PAL version of the OT is absolutely mouthwatering. Bring it on fellas!


Hey, haven't you been keeping up on current events? MothEr did wonderful PAL transfers of ANH and ESB, which is absolutely astonishing (Moth3r, I am your fan!). Just check the right thread or go straight to myspleen. com to download them.
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I know of Moth3r´s great efforts indeed (and Citizen´s PAL project), I have been following everything closely ever since I joined. And although Moth3r´s results have been great, they are obviously lacking in the audio department, with the audio only being from VHS. Now, those french laserdiscs mentioned here contain the english audio so that combined with the great visuals of PAL would make the absolute best transfer (maybe excluding the exiting XO project) out there. I already got the good old TR47 versions, so I´m holding out for some definite a/v improvement. Either a great PAL project or maybe just holding out for the XO versions.
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Originally posted by: Rebelscum
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And although Moth3r´s results have been great, they are obviously lacking in the audio department, with the audio only being from VHS.
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What exactly is "obviously lacking" with VHS hi-fi audio? Have you listened to the DVD yourself, or are you just assuming that the audio is second rate because it's from VHS?

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Originally posted by: Moth3r
Originally posted by: Rebelscum
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And although Moth3r´s results have been great, they are obviously lacking in the audio department, with the audio only being from VHS.
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What exactly is "obviously lacking" with VHS hi-fi audio? Have you listened to the DVD yourself, or are you just assuming that the audio is second rate because it's from VHS?


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P.S. Personally I found mother's transfer extremely pleasing and as I'm not such a control freak when it comes to sound, I cannot wish for anything better!
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P.P.S. Also, nobody ever proves me NTSC is superior to PAL, so X0 project obviously is not an option for me
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Well, the experience I´ve had with VHS audio is very mixed. It can be decent, even excellent at times but as with the video problems and degration of VHS we all know about, there are bound to be some dropouts and audio noise that is not present on the CD quality laserdisc audio. When I transferred my VHS copies (in mint condition) to DVD there are numerous audio dropouts and various problems that bugged me. When I got the TR47´s all that was gone, just crystal clear audio. So all I´m saying is that VHS audio is not as consistant or as good as CD/laserdisc quality and therefore I would prefer to have a laserdisc soundtrack to go with the laserdisc visuals. I did not mean to assume anything, as it could well be that your VHS audio is without these flaws. I was speaking of VHS audio in general.
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Assuming VHS sound was hissy crappy do-do was also my mistake. That only appears to be the case with the linear track, the hi-fi track is very good. Just listen to it and you'll find there's no audible difference with the other transfers.

EDIT: Of course the LD audio is better, just not as much as one would expect.

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Originally posted by: Jerclay
P.P.S. Also, nobody ever proves me NTSC is superior to PAL, so X0 project obviously is not an option for me


I predict you will end up quietly preferring the X0 Project when all is said and done.
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Originally posted by: Karyudo
Originally posted by: Jerclay
P.P.S. Also, nobody ever proves me NTSC is superior to PAL, so X0 project obviously is not an option for me


I predict you will end up quietly preferring the X0 Project when all is said and done.


Well, in that case I think you know something I don't