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DrDre
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Best Explanation Of Mary Sue Issue
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14-Jan-2019, 2:43 PM

Voss Caltrez said:

Shopping Maul said:

I can’t for the life of me understand why these people didn’t think to write a story first!

That’s how it feels at times.
But couldn’t the same be said of the OT?
It feels like Lucas was making it up as he went along.
ANH: Vader and Luke’s father are clearly different people.
ESB: Lucas decides he wants a twist in the story and makes Vader Luke’s father. And just some insurance to get you hooked for the final film, he has Yoda say, “there is another.”
ROTJ: Oh crap, how do we resolve Yoda’s line? Okay how about a twin sister? And make her be Leia.

And although I think Luke was more relatable in his failings compared to Rey, couldn’t he be seen as having aspects of a Marty Stu?
Obi-Wan gives him one brief lesson on the Millennium Falcon, and suddenly he’s able to use the Force and destroy the Death Star with it?
How did he learn telekinesis at the beginning of ESB?
As a kid I always assumed that Luke went back to Dagobah to finish his training before he went to rescue Han and that’s why he was more powerful. Rewatching it, that’s not the case. He returns to finish his training after all that went down, and Yoda just tells him, “nah, you’re training is finished, you just need to kill Vader and then you’ll be a Jedi.”
I always got the impression that to become a Jedi there had to be rigorous training involved, and looking back, Luke has very little training. At least they could have written it so that Luke DID continue his training with Yoda between ESB and the beginning of ROTJ.

I agree certain story elements of the OT were rushed, with ROTJ being the worst offender, as Lucas obviously wanted to finish the story in the third installment. However, the OT has the advantage of the story being spread out over a number of years with Luke being able to hone his skills through self-study. The fact that TFA and TLJ takes place over a matter of days leaves little room for study and reflection, and so Rey almost instantly goes from being a newbie to standing toe to toe with Kylo and lifting a ton of bolders, which to me highlights the rushed nature of the ST both in terms of the story and its development.