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Post #1264324

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Valheru_84
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The Random Star Wars Pics & GIFs Thread
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Date created
14-Jan-2019, 11:29 AM

I AM trying to debate the issue without effectively having to repeat myself as I can’t understand your response in the context that you have supposedly read my reply. You are dismissive and make statements that appear to ignore the additional clarification and detail that I already provided to give you insight into my perspective where my opinion stems from and the contributing factors. Your responses do not present to me as someone that has read and tried to understand what I actually said.

To try and put it simply:

  • Perhaps “sensation” was inaccurate in the picture it painted but it seemed an apt enough approximation at the time due to the amount of places and mediums I have seen it appear in, many of which are mainstream. I don’t believe it ever featured in my local town news channel but my point was if you search for it there are countless references, many of them big or well known names and brands. Regardless of the actors tone, they were talking about it and on camera which means it was public knowledge and a topic viewable to many Star Wars fans that would view such content. I can’t help it if you and Ray haven’t come across it, you asked for examples and I provided 6. The burden of proof works both ways, it’s your turn to get educated on the matter before you continue to summarily dismiss it.

  • Pando Lando is what the public and media termed it as when Jonathan Kasdan answered a direct question from a journalist on whether Lando was pansexual which he confirmed.

  • I’ve already stated what I object to which has nothing to do with homosexual, bisexual or pansexual characters but the retconning of a classic character and the fact that the term in itself is misleading and when I think about it now, it could be offensive to actual pansexuals because of what it is actually alluding to in the movie which has nothing to do with pansexuality and is disgusting, depraved and hardly the type of thing to include in a Star Wars movie which will be watched by little kids and that is the act of sexual activity with a robot called L33T.

  • My response to Snooker was because I already clearly stated my views on homosexuals and of which any sexual representation in a movie is normally only shown in M15+ rated movies where you are supposed to be 15 years or older to view and it is not expected to be watched by little kids (ie. 3-10 year olds).

  • My issue with the meme was simply a passing observation of my less than enthused thoughts on it that I did not expect anyone here to be completely ignorant of seeing how prolific it has featured in media. In fact, if you understand the context of the meme “It works every time” as in getting the “ladies” but with L33T hanging off of his shoulder instead of a woman, then you understand the reference and where I am coming from and I again have to wonder as to the genuine nature of your supposed ignorance on the matter. Just think about it - why would you insinuate a sexual relationship between a Star Wars character and a robot and not just any character but freaking Lando Calrissian?!

  • I never would have gone to such lengths to explain the situation or myself if I didn’t feel I had to after Screams accused me of referring to pansexuals as “it” and also asking why pansexuals bothered me, rather than seeing the multitude of issues tied to the name and idea, not the sexuality.

  • I’ve got no issue with pansexuals in sci-fi or in general. If you try to make me repeat this a 3rd time by saying you “read what I said just fine” I will not be happy. You can’t say now that I haven’t warned you.

Valheru_84 said:
I don’t have a problem myself if there are homosexual, bisexual or pansexual characters in movies. If that is the character and it plays to the story at hand and isn’t shoved in my face just so no one can miss that the movie makers ensured the “representation” box was ticked, then that’s fine.

I do apologise for now taking this thread off topic but I am immensely frustrated by these attempts to make me out as some kind of unreasonable homo/panphobe.

Val